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Thanks for all the info guys, I really appreciate it, gonna check out those reviews and the g-sync/freesync.
post #12 of 22
Dont get 1440p if you want to max ALL games at 60fps. Its not going to happen even more so for future titles.
In the US you can get a 144hz monitor for around 250 are you sure you cant find one under 500?

You wont need much power a 600w gold PSU should do fine.

As for your case check out this steal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811235055


There is no point to water cooling other than ascetics. If you like the way it looks and are willing to spend the money then get it.
Air can produce the same results. Maybe you should look at a better heatsink. 212 evo is good but its not the best. It dosnt look good threw a window in my opinion.

If you can afford it I would go with the 980. The 970 has much more bang for your buck but SLI is not all that grate. I have used it in all of my previous builds instead of upgrading and it presents problems.
post #13 of 22
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Thanks for all the info guys, I really appreciate it, gonna check out those reviews and the g-sync/freesync.

I wouldnt at the moment its overpriced because its a new feature. Its wise to wait for the price to drop because it is a new technology it might have some hicups. If you want one I would wait until all new gaming monitors come with it. There are not very many options on the market right now.
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80 plus has nothing to do with quality if you are not already aware.
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80 plus has nothing to do with quality if you are not already aware.

80plus? Could you expand on that? And could you possibly advise me on a 2016 1440p IPS display?
post #16 of 22
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I wouldnt at the moment its overpriced because its a new feature. Its wise to wait for the price to drop because it is a new technology it might have some hicups. If you want one I would wait until all new gaming monitors come with it. There are not very many options on the market right now.

Honestly I have no idea about these display tech, I'm an IT but I do mostly network admin work and this whole g-sync freesync sounds a bit "sci-fi", if I have a powerful enough GPU/CPU and a decent display with 60hz, do I really need a secondary chip in the display just to sync gpu and display? Has anyone had experience with these technologies as far as gaming is concerned? As I stated previously I'm much more inclined to go with an IPS than a 144hz because I care more about immersing myself in the game rather then avoid a few minor fps/tearing improvements.
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80plus? Could you expand on that? And could you possibly advise me on a 2016 1440p IPS display?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus
Why 80 PLUS® is Irrelevant to You When Buying a PSU

As for Nvidia G-Sync watch these videos

I think once you have seen Nvidia G-Sync and tried it for yourself you are sold and will never go back to normal.
I am also looking for a new monitor and i am sold on the Asus PG279Q, i just need some time to save up that amount it costs as its NOT a cheap monitor.
Edited by shilka - 2/6/16 at 6:14am
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Do you have a monitor with a 40-144Hz FreeSync range? You're good. Do you have one of the first 48-75Hz displays? Sorry, you are out luck. AMD has a wide range of FreeSync monitors on the market today and they don't actively advertise that range, so you won't know for sure without reading other reviews (like ours) if your monitor will support Low Frame Rate Compensation or not - which could be a concern for buyers going forward. 4K FreeSync monitors which often have a ~32Hz to 60Hz range will not have the ability to support LFC, which is unfortunate as this is one key configuration where the feature is needed! (As another aside, this might explain why NVIDIA has been more selective in its panel selection for G-Sync monitors; even though they frame double in hardware they still need at least ~2x between the minimum and maximum refresh rates.)

I have spent the last couple of days with the new Crimson driver and tested Low Frame Rate Compensation with several FreeSync monitors including the ASUS MG279Q, the ASUS MG278Q, the Acer XR341CK and the LG 29UM67. Of those four displays we have in-house, only the LG 29UM67 has a FreeSync range that is outside the support criteria for LFC and as I expected, the monitor behaved no differently with the Crimson driver than it did with any software before it. All three of the other displays worked though, including the 35-90Hz range on the MG279Q, the 40-144Hz on the MG278Q and the 30-75Hz range on the UltraWide Acer XR341CK.

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Testing the ASUS MG278Q with Low Frame Rate Compensation. Nevermind the cable clutter!

Using an application we have internally to manually select a frame rate, I was able to bring the monitors below those previously tested ranges and the LFC behavior seemed to be working as expected. With the V-Sync setting in the game off, moving to 30 FPS on the ASUS MG279Q did not result in screen tearing of any kind. I was able to go all the way down to 10 FPS and didn't see any kind of visual artifacting as a result of the frame doubling. I duplicated this process with the other two monitors as well - both passed.

Of course I ran through some games as well including Grand Theft Auto V where I could easily adjust settings to get frame rates below the VRR range of the monitors on our Radeon R9 380X test bed. The game was able to move in and out of the variable refresh rate minimum without tearing or judder that would have previously been a part of the FreeSync experience.

That's great news! But there were a couple of oddities I need to report. At one point, with both a Radeon R9 295X2 and the R9 380X, the ASUS MG279Q exhibited some extreme flickering when in the variable refresh rate range and below. This kind of flicker reminded me of the type we saw on older G-Sync monitors when hitting an instantaneous 0 FPS frame rate - the frame rate doubling was influencing the brightness of the screen to a degree that we could pick it up just looking at it. I am not sure if this flickering we saw is an issue with the driver or with the monitor but I only saw it 2-3 times in my various reboots, monitor swaps and GPU changes.

I will also tell you that the smoothness of the doubled frame rate with AMD FreeSync and LFC doesn't feel as good as that on our various G-Sync monitors. I am interested to get more detail from AMD and NVIDIA to see how their algorithms compare on when and how to insert a new frame - my guess is that NVIDIA has had more time to perfect its module logic than AMD's driver team has and any fringe cases that crop up (Are you just on the edge of the VRR range? How long have you been on that edge? Is the frame rate set to spike back up above it in the next frame or two?) aren't dealt with differently.

Despite those couple of complaints, my first impression of LFC with the Crimson driver is one of satisfied acceptance. It's a great start, there is room to improve, but AMD is listening and fixing technologies to better compete with NVIDIA as we head into 2016.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-Software-Crimson-Improves-FreeSync-and-Frame-Pacing-Support
http://120hzmonitors.com/amd-low-framerate-compensation-freesync/
post #19 of 22
Try an get a 34" LG curved IPS display- 34UC97
Also go for HyperX Savege RAM instead of Corsair- looks better, faster and cheaper.
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Try an get a 34" LG curved IPS display- 34UC97
Also go for HyperX Savege RAM instead of Corsair- looks better, faster and cheaper.
You mean Savage i assume? Kingston also has their Fury line which are even cheaper then the Savage line.
But yes i agree go with Kingston its better and its cheaper then Corsair.
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