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This sounds like a server chip. They better create something to compete with Xeon...
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AMD has the most curious naming conventions.
    
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AMD has the most curious naming conventions.

All companies have these, for example, there is shorter step from "Titan" to "Titanic" than there is from "Zeppelin" to "Hindenburg". Or (I don't remember which one exactly) the case where a company named its product in a way that means male body part in Spanish slang.
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You're not after a bunch of people started speculating? We do know that there is at least a 40% increase in IPC from Excavator which should be a good boost.

It was a little joke, i meant we'll need an ocn suicide watch if zen is sucessful after seeing the emotion pour out of some intel fanboys post, oh and i dont mean the guy i quoted he just seemed up for a joke.
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It was a little joke, i meant we'll need an ocn suicide watch if zen is sucessful after seeing the emotion pour out of some intel fanboys post, oh and i dont mean the guy i quoted he just seemed up for a joke.

I think more suicide will be committed if zen fails lol
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I think more suicide will be committed if zen fails lol
Anyone in the red camp who would probably already has in the last few years! biggrin.gif
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It depends.


Assume you have 100 cores and 100 tasks. Assume completion time for each task is iid exponential with mean 1... you'd expect the max of a single run to be around 4.7 units of time.

The implication there is that you end up being limited by single threaded performance for sequential tasks that have a limit to how parallelizeable the workloads can get.

look up amdahl's law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law

More cores is extremely helpful for virtualization. That alone could make it great for the datacenter. Sure you can't do much with all that power in one OS so run 15 vm+ VMs on the box with enough memory and it could be great for business if performance was right.
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Zen is not 4-way SMT, not sure where you are getting that from, unless you know something nobody else does.
That graphic shows what is clearly a 2 way SMT configuration. Unless an FPU is now a "core".

Yep, you're right, the new info says 2 threads per core. There was talk of CMT under SMT back in April, probably where that info came from originally.

Well, it's still gonna have 4 lanes per core and quad channel DDR4 memory of up to a terabyte even if we DO have to deal with the bulldozer in the closet.

Dug a touch of it up from anand:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2381524
Then TechPowerUp:
http://www.techpowerup.com/216541/amd-zen-features-double-the-per-core-number-crunching-machinery-to-predecessor.html (Clearly indicates that Zen is an SMT shell on Bulldongle)

If they ARE putting the CMT under SMT instead of dropping it entirely (I mean look at the hardware block diagram?) we could get a good increase in flexibility on the processor and finally gain the mathematical advantage of the CMT without having to sacrifice a whole core to its operation.

Not gonna bait my breath, but this is one of Jim Keller's babies.
AMD has been known to call APU GPU portions "cores" too, "compute" cores. So and 8 and 8 APU with 32 threads... yuk yuk yuk.

Gods, just wish they'd get the Polaris XI out of the closet in Canada and show a pic.
Edited by prjindigo - 2/6/16 at 2:31pm
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Not gonna bait my breath, but this is one of Jim Keller's babies.
AMD has been known to call APU GPU portions "cores" too, "compute" cores. So and 8 and 8 APU with 32 threads... yuk yuk yuk.

Gods, just wish they'd get the Polaris XI out of the closet in Canada and show a pic.

Zen is not by default an APU. It's a CPU and won't have any integrated GPU. It can be incorporated into an APU and we've already seen a diagram of the 16 core Zen APU.
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