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Hi there!

I am looking forward to hear some good advice to either do a proper setup with my current components or buy something else. I will try to provide as much info as I feel is needed but please ask for anything I might've missed.

Before using the sample template to add info, I would like to stress that I would prefer a good Wireless Headphones with Mic, happy to spend more for good quality. If a wireless setup isn't that great then I will go for other options tho.

1 - Budget .... I am happy to spend anything upto $500 or even more if I like the recommended setup.

2 - Music Taste .... I usually listen to classic style music thats not too loud, 70s and 80s I guess, but I don't mind going all out loud once in a while if in mood.

3 - Heavy base with good vocals.

4 - Currently I have Razer Tiamet 7.1 Headphones that I am using with on board 7.1 sound. I also have Steelseries H Wireless that I used for a while before buying Razer. And last but not least I also have Asus Essence STX II 7.1 card that comes with sister board and built in headphone amplifier.

5 - I will be using new / fixed audio setup mostly for gaming and movies and occasionally for music.

6 - I am in Melbourne, Australia and can use ebay / amazon / newegg (depends on products available for Australia).


Alright.

So, I have never used an Amp / DAC and have used only PC to listen to music or watch movies. I used Steelseries H Wireless headphone because of its flexibility to not worry about taking it off when move around and I can keep using Mic too.

I bought Razer Tiamet 7.1 and Asus Essence STX II 7.1 to get the full 7.1 surround sound while watching movies or playing games. Unfortunately I couldn't get them work together and I took out the sound card and now using Razer Tiamet with my onboard sound.

Here are the questions.

1 - Is there a way to connect Razer Tiamet Headphones and Asus 7.1 card together and are they both great or should I go with just a stereo headphones?

2 - Is "Virtual Surround" feature on most of the stereo headphones good enough to enjoy a 7.1 surround movie or play a game?

3 - If I am better off changing my set up, please suggest some good Headphones and / or Sound card (if needed, or if I can use my current Asus soundcard).

4 - As I mentioned, I have never used a DAC / Amp, please advise if it will really make a difference for someone like me who's clearly NOT a "audiophile" or I should spend that money on better quality headphones?

Just an example of a pair of wireless headphones I thought were good. http://en-us.sennheiser.com/audiophile-headphones-wireless-digital-over-ear-rs-195 .. Any comments on these after reading what I am looking for and what I have right now?

Sorry for the really long post but I wanted to add as much as I can. Appreciate any positive feedback / constructive criticisms (yeah I know, I have spent some $$$ on maybe not so great products, I am well aware of that fact).

Thanks!
post #2 of 5
$500 budget and looking for wireless headphones? $500 budget and headphones mostly for gaming and movies? Yeah that doesn't compute properly.

What happens when you use the Tiamat's analog connections and plug into the sound card? Although honestly it doesn't matter since you're about to buy something much better hopefully. Surround headphones are a gimmick. I was using one before, the CM Storm Sirus, and then upgraded to an Audio Technica ATH-A900X which provided far better imaging (e.g. ability to pinpoint sounds) and a better surround sensation with virtual surround. And my AKG K7xx blows all of them away.

The only recommendation I can make for wireless headphones is don't bother. I can't recommend models or anything.
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Thanks for your input. As I mentioned, I am very flexible with budget. From what I've searched over the web about popular and gimmicky brands, that $500 looks like a higher end budget.

I wouldn't be seeking for some good advice if I already knew whats an actual good sounding headphone vs one of those so called gimmicky brands.

Make some suggestions please, if wireless isn't good then I will consider wired. If you have any medium to high end wired headphones setup suggestion please shoot them up !!

Also about the analogue connections of Tiamat, I tried to connect them but Asus sound card has different number of output jacks and I just couldn't work it out to set it properly.

I am happy to go for a complete new setup or can combine with anything thats useful I already have.

Thanks!
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Your sound card is good, given your use I suggest keeping it and just getting a decent set of headphones to start off with. Would open back headphones be alright with you? They leak a lot of sound and provide no isolation, and aren't capable of as much bass impact, but have a much more spacious sound and provide a better sense of positioning.
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Your sound card is good, given your use I suggest keeping it and just getting a decent set of headphones to start off with. Would open back headphones be alright with you? They leak a lot of sound and provide no isolation, and aren't capable of as much bass impact, but have a much more spacious sound and provide a better sense of positioning.

I use PC mostly at night times, so open back won't be good. Thanks for your suggestion about sound card.

Looking around bit more I found "Sennheiser" headphones are very good. I am interested in one of these. Any input please?

http://en-us.sennheiser.com/digital-headphones-wireless-home-audio-over-ear-rs-185

http://en-us.sennheiser.com/gaming-headset-pc-363d

http://en-us.sennheiser.com/pc-350-special-edition-gaming-headset

http://en-us.sennheiser.com/noise-canceling-headphones-travel-pxc-450

http://en-us.sennheiser.com/high-quality-headphones-around-ear-audio-surround-hd-650

http://en-us.sennheiser.com/momentum-wireless-headphones-with-mic

The last one features bluetooth connectivity and I will have to look into details how to connect with PC.

I have a question regarding wireless audio quality vs wired. Is there really a huge difference or with today's technology, wireless signals deliver a good sound?

Thanks!

PS:- I do have a Mic to cover up the voice option for those headphones without built-in Mic.
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