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Hi, i would like to buy some cooling stuff for my PC :

-Another front case fan for my PC :Are there any fans that would have better airflow/noise ratio than my Ty-147A (HR-02) or the PH-F140XP (stock case fan), i'm running them between 1000-max (TY) and 900-1000 (PH) ? maybe the Cryorig XF140 or any lower rpm Vardar ? Are any 200mm fans worth it, the stock 200mm was unbearable at more than 400 RPM and was still growling like a truck engine at the lowest speed.

-I'm planning on replacing the GPU headsink with an AIO cooler/bracket : can the hybrid 120 keep a 780 ti's VRM cool ? for my particular GPU is the G10 better than the HG10 VRM -temp wise (with and without heatsinks) ? Can you recommend me a cheap, PUMP-QUIET aio to work with any of the brackets ?

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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

Not sure there is a better flow/noise 140mm fan than the TY-147A made (I'm sure @doyll will be along soon with the charts). If there is, the XF140 and Vardars are not them (?) .
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

"Ways to better cooling' linked in my sig. The first post is index, just click on topic of interest to see it. There are several comparing TY-14x fans against others.(against 3 others from another brand)
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Originally Posted by claes View Post

Does not exist, x41/x61 seem to be the favorites but they are buzzy/squeaky/wishy-washy/annoying at idle IMO
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Originally Posted by baii View Post

I had tried h55,x31 lq320,h60, h60 has highest frequency but actually least audible, the h55 sound similar to lq320 and the x31 is worst.
Honestly, the pump noise does exist, undervolt help some, but ultimately it is what you hear that matters. Grab a h55 from somewhere you can return, plug it to molex -> 3 pin fan header, listen to it. There is nothing that is much quieter than h55 because the round pump thingy are all made by the same manufacturer in the same factory somewhere in china.

The h60 can work with corsair hg10, but the blower fan suks and usually have bearing noise which defeat the purpose.

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Originally Posted by claes View Post

The best/quietest CLCs, IMO, are the x41/x61. However, they are still noisy/intrusive, even when undervolted.
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Originally Posted by baii View Post

X31 is horrible, x41 should be one of the better ones, h55 should be middle of the pack. That's the impression I have.
I wanted to try x41, but it is too expensive so never bothered.
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The h55 is a LP Asetek v.3 pump
The x41 is a Asetek v.4.5 pump with speed control
The 3.0 performance is an Asetek v.3 pump (I think?)
The Arctic Hybrid is a v.4 Asetek pump, the Freezer a v.4.5
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Originally Posted by baii View Post

Well, there is the gen 5 astek pump, I think cryorig and scythe have rebrand for that.
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Originally Posted by claes View Post

My 620 that I settled on sounded like crap (?) , as did my Seidon 120m that SPCR loved, and later the x41 that everyone gleams over

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I am supposed to understand that the TY-147A is better in every single way except the cost, than all the fans i listed in my review ? please provide a detailed explaination comparing the measured sound pressure, airflow and the perceived noise of these fans and which one has the best measured/perceived dba/cfm ratio when compared to the TY-147A (or/and TY-147 thanks, much valuable information on a discountinued fan) at max RPM (1200-1300) ?

Edited by MadjinnSayan - 2/8/16 at 11:27pm
 
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post #2 of 131
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Originally Posted by MadjinnSayan View Post

Hi, i would like to buy some cooling stuff for my PC :

-Another front case fan for my PC :Are there any fans that would have better airflow/noise ratio than my Ty-147A (HR-02) or the PH-F140XP (stock case fan), i'm running them between 1000-max (TY) and 900-1000 (PH) ? maybe the Cryorig XF140 or any lower rpm Vardar ? Are any 200mm fans worth it, the stock 200mm was unbearable at more than 400 RPM and was still growling like a truck engine at the lowest speed.

-I'm planning on replacing the GPU headsink with an AIO cooler/bracket : can the hybrid 120 keep a 780 ti's VRM cool ? for my particular GPU is the G10 better than the HG10 VRM -temp wise (with and without heatsinks) ? Can you recommend me a cheap, PUMP-QUIET aio to work with any of the brackets ?

Not sure there is a better flow/noise 140mm fan than the TY-147A made (I'm sure @doyll will be along soon with the charts). If there is, the XF140 and Vardars are not them. As for 200mm, sadly the stock Phanteks is actually one of the best ones made, it just isn't a size that has been seriously gone after by the top fan manufacturers, though there is a rumor that Noctua may release one.

On the AiO on a GTX 780 Ti.....ugh...good luck with that one. Tell your VRM I feel sorry for it..... Instead of doing the G10 ghetto mod, why not just get a real block for your card with a Swiftech MC140-X and do it right? The price difference isn't all that much (at least it isn't in the US).
post #3 of 131
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Thanks for the answer, the phanteks is the best one ??? well that's disappointing. The MCR140-X seems cool but i have only found one shop that ships in France and this solution would be pretty expensive (80 + 100 block + tubing = rekt)
 
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WD Green Desktop Mainstream 2 To Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev. B Window 7 64bits Samsung SyncMaster P2470HD 
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post #4 of 131
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Originally Posted by MadjinnSayan View Post

Thanks for the answer, the phanteks is the best one ??? well that's disappointing. The MCR140-X seems cool but i have only found one shop that ships in France and this solution would be pretty expensive (80 + 100 block + tubing = rekt)

Have you tried highflow.nl?

Even though it fits on the GPU, NZXT specifically does not list compatibility with the GTX 780 Ti due to it's inability to adequately cool the VRM (Corsair could care less as long as they get your cash). You are far better off with your stock cooler on the GTX 780 Ti than you are doing it half way.
post #5 of 131
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(Corsair could care less as long as they get your cash)
so the Corsair HG10 cools the vrm bad ? What about the hybrid 120 ?
Hmm i dont think i'm gonna spend that much on GPU cooling (loop) as it represents half of what i paid to get the 780 ti lol.
 
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so the Corsair HG10 cools the vrm bad ? What about the hybrid 120 ?
Hmm i dont think i'm gonna spend that much on GPU cooling (loop) as it represents half of what i paid to get the 780 ti lol.

Which hybrid?

And what is your goal? Are you having temp issues?
post #7 of 131
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Dis : https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/accelero-hybrid-ii-120.html

My goal is to OC my card and make it more silent , currently i set the fans to 60% (my threshold) and the card then throttles to 83°C (90°C + VRM) or any other limit i put (ex 90 -> 100°C + VRM) -> the core clock then stagnates under under 1050Mhz.I have managed to get it to 1100 by lowering the power target to 85% and upping the min voltage to 1.050 but the temps are still high and the OC may not be stable (artifacts when hitting little under 1200 if the voltage is not on par.)
 
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post #8 of 131
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Originally Posted by MadjinnSayan View Post

Dis : https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/accelero-hybrid-ii-120.html

My goal is to OC my card and make it more silent , currently i set the fans to 60% (my threshold) and the card then throttles to 83°C (90°C + VRM) or any other limit i put (ex 90 -> 100°C + VRM) -> the core clock then stagnates under under 1050Mhz.I have managed to get it to 1100 by lowering the power target to 85% and upping the min voltage to 1.050 but the temps are still high and the OC may not be stable (artifacts when hitting little under 1200 if the voltage is not on par.)

I've heard good things about that cooler, but have never used one so I really can't comment. It is certainly far more developed than the NZXT or Corsair.
post #9 of 131
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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

Not sure there is a better flow/noise 140mm fan than the TY-147A made (I'm sure @doyll will be along soon with the charts). If there is, the XF140 and Vardars are not them. As for 200mm, sadly the stock Phanteks is actually one of the best ones made, it just isn't a size that has been seriously gone after by the top fan manufacturers, though there is a rumor that Noctua may release one.

On the AiO on a GTX 780 Ti.....ugh...good luck with that one. Tell your VRM I feel sorry for it..... Instead of doing the G10 ghetto mod, why not just get a real block for your card with a Swiftech MC140-X and do it right? The price difference isn't all that much (at least it isn't in the US).
Ciarlatano pretty much covered it. As for posts, look in "Ways to better cooling' linked in my sig. The first post is index, just click on topic of interest to see it. There are several comparing TY-14x fans against others.

And make sure your case airflow is supply air to components that is only a few degrees warmer than room. In most cases (no pun) the difference is way more than most people think. Component cooling intake air temps in my build are between 2 & 5c warmer than room Most builds out there are 9-20c warmer.
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And what about a silent-pump aio cooler ?
 
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Corsair Raptor K30 Be Quiet! Straight Power 10 700W  Phanteks Enthoo Pro Window Perixx MX-1000 Iron 
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