Originally Posted by MadjinnSayan
wut ? the conversation was just getting interesting, i'm not really against getting an air cooler but i need tests, there are very few threads with vrm temps on the 780 ti (with g10 or aftermarket).
GPU-wise i wanna see numbers (hence the 580 questions), aio clc-wise i just can get away with empirical noise feedbacks(maybe all the pumps make some noise but i dont think they all do it the same way and the same intensity, for example silentpcreview says that the x41 pump is quiter than the x31's one)
don't really want to jump into this conversation, but i just want to point out a few things.
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these are obviously people who have a crap ton of exp in testing and evaluating different products and have earned their +rep because of all the people they've helped.
i'm not saying just because they have posts and rep makes their statements true, but what i am saying is enough members on OCN benefited from their contributions to the board to give them that many +rep and unique +rep.
their advice come from years of experience in both testing and researching about the various products on the market and they are trying to help you see pass all the marketing and giving you the information you need to get the best performance out of your rig. they aren't being paid by anyone to help or sell any product. they do this because they enjoy helping people sort through fact from marketing material/hype.
if you feel their advice is inadequate of flawed in anyway, you really ought to research other reputable boards like [H]ardocp or anandtech etc. however i think you will find the advice given would not stray too far from what you are getting here.
we aren't lying to you or trying to talk you into doing something that we don't feel is optimal for your system. we don't always agree with each other as far as advice given due to our own experiences and philosophies, but we are all trying to help you. so... you may want to consider dialing back your attitude and maybe actually listen to what people who are trying to help you are saying.
personally i'm not opposed to liquid cooling for the GPU. it's the most optimal way to cool 300+w of heat given the space constraints of the ATX specification. however, not all liquid cooling is created equal and it just happens that the AIO liquid coolers occupies the bottom end of the liquid cooling spectrum. AIO coolers are NOT built specifically for GPU's. most of the time you have to buy adapters or make your own adapters just to get it to fit on the GPU. with very few exceptions, AIO coolers does NOTHING for the VRM on the GPU... there are some specialized products that adapts a AIO cooler into a hybrid cooler system but at the end of the day, it's not what the AIO cooler was originally designed to do...
so... what it really comes down to is if you truly want to push your system, then get something that is specifically designed to cool the GPU. a full coverage GPU block for your vid card would be the most ideal way to cool your GPU. however if you want to go cheap and try for a hybrid AIO system, then your mileage will vary depending on how heavily you push your system. but if you simply buy an adapter and slap a random AIO cooler on a GPU.... well.. good luck with that
general rule of thumb when it comes cooling. custom loop > high end AIO > high end air cooling. however, just because it is possible to cool better then air on a high end AIO doesn't you won't pay the decibel cost associated with that high end AIO to perform at that level. at the end of the day, the cooler with the best decibel cost / watt cooled belongs to the high end air cooler so it's up to you whether you feel it's worth the decibel cost to gain that 2 or 3 C difference.
the final advice i can offer is don't let hype and marketing material cloud your judgement. listen to people who have been researching and testing the various products and make your own judgement as to what you feel is best for your system.