While doyll is right, I can see that he talked through you more than to you...
Originally Posted by MadjinnSayan
Case and overall temp-wise, arent the aio better than non-blower aftermarket gpu cooler in the way that they dont freak up the airflow inside and the temps of the air supplied to the other parts ?
In a theoretical world, sure, but in reality, no.
Air goes where you push it. If anything, having fans in the chassis help direct air, while relying totally on intake and exhaust (say, if you're only using water-cooling) leaves the chassis open to dead spaces.
While it's true that chassis temperatures decrease overall with water-cooling, that doesn't mean components are actually running cooler.
With full cover water blocks this isn't much of an issue - things like the VRM and the northbridge are being cooled with water blocks.
With CLCs it is an issue - since they only cool cores there's a lack of cooling for other components, and since there's no airflow over these components due to dead-spaces they get hotter.
You can see this outlined pretty clearly in several of those reviews I posted - a 290, even with the Kraken's fan blowing directly at the VRM, the VRM eventually get so hot that they eventually throttle the core, despite the core running nice and cool.
Also i still demand a comparison between h55,x41,the water 3.0 performer and the arctic freezer series (please, no more h55 vs x41 vs x31, i merely understood the value of these 3 already after witnessing the comparison in every single post refering to my question, thanks).
I am not sure what the latter part of this means, but please refer to my previous post identifying which generation each pump is.
There really is no significant difference between CLCs across the same revision other than a) the fans bundled and b) the firmware/controller features (USB, lighting, etc). Some have thinner or thicker radiators, but this doesn't seem to impact performance much (the thinner radiator of the x41 outperforms thicker radiators according to most review sites).
The pump of a particular generation will be exactly the same across that generation, regardless of brand name, with the exception of controls.
It sounds like you are committed go the CLC route. Again, IMO, FWIW, the x41 is the best option here. It is still inferior to a good air cooler, though.
Perhaps this will help clarify why no one is bothering too much to provide a side by side comparison: http://www.asetek.com/desktop/oem-cpu-coolers/510lc/
As you can see, they produce a few CLCs and then other companies rebrand them. They really are basically all the same.
They are different revisions and the CAM software sucked at first.
The newer revision is marginally better, but it's still an Asetek CLC.
Originally Posted by MadjinnSayan
Cpu wise, yes i agree air coolers do provide additionai airflow for the mobo as long as it is top down.
This is inaccurate - even a tower heatsink is blowing air directly across the north bridge, RAM, and other components. A CLC, with the exception of Cryorig's, will not do this.
Yes, vrm cooling is almost always done by tiny heatsinks on them, this is what i will do with the g10, he only difference is that it will be more efficient than traditional air coolers as the bracket vrm fan airflow will not be restricted by the main gpu heatsink fins as stated earlier
I think if you reviewed those reviews again you would find that this is untrue. Even the hg10, Corsair's version with a full plate and blower fan, barely competed with a good air cooler.
The difference is that with the g10 you only have a (mediocre) 90mm fan blowing air at the back end of the card. With a Morpheus or similar you have two 120mm fans blowing air across the entire PCB.
Heatsinks will definitely shave a few degrees off, but they aren't a solution for a lack of airflow.
He g10 solution my also offer better case airflow as it wil most likely blow air out on the top or back
The g10 is not a reference cooler - lacking a shroud to direct air it just blows air around the chassis (first-hand experience), much like an air cooler would.
The Accelero Hybrid gets closer to this, though, with their angled fan and semi-shroud.
And, again, an air cooler will offer better case airflow because it actually blows air... a 90mm fan blowing hot air towards your CPU is not going to direct as much air as 2x120mm fans.
or create negative pressure as froont intake.
I have no idea what this means
I think you are thinking of reference cards which exhaust air out of the PCI slots.
As i said earlier, this may prove better than non-blower heatsinks, which simply blow heat in every direction, maybe cooling the overheating mobo battery, or the steaming-hot usb connectors underneath the gpu
Only if you turn up your chassis fans to compensate for the lack of chassis airflow.Edited by claes - 2/5/16 at 1:35pm