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A couple of questions for Fingertip Grip users

post #1 of 11
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1. What do you look for in a mouse? Be as through as possible.

2. What mouse are you using currently?
post #2 of 11
1. Width less than 55 mm at grip position. Lenght <120 mm. Clicks as light as possible. )____( or |____| sides. Side buttons on both sides of the mouse.

2. Kana v2.

Why are you asking btw? Making your own mouse?
post #3 of 11
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Just getting an idea of what people like wink.gif
post #4 of 11
Going to do this in reverse order.

2: Razer Krait 2013. First mouse I bought while having any real understanding what I should be looking for in a mouse.

1: It turns out I really do miss having side-buttons. I wish it was wider, too. I think I'd be quite happy if it was twice as wide as it is. I like the length, though (117mm). In fact, I'd be quite happy for another couple of CM to be shaved off the back. Also a decent sensor, obviously. Aesthetics-wise I don't mind, but I tend to prefer something classier/more understated over "GAMERZ" styling.
post #5 of 11
1: Shallow, short, as lightweight as possible. Good ring finger grip. As little thumb-muscle protrusion as possible. Far-forward sensor. Medium liftoff distance.
2: Kone Pure Military
Edited by wareya - 2/3/16 at 1:02pm
post #6 of 11
KOne pure military here! smile.gif

+++++ as every1 above mentioned. Mouse must be small and light.
Small and light mouse is the best for fingertip grip (ofcourse it depends how big is your palm. Mine is 15cm and my mouse is perfect for me)

Im using Roccat kone pure military as well.
post #7 of 11
1. Short (100 - 120mm), lightweight (70-80g), medium width (~65 where you grip), low height so as to not get in the way when controlling recoil, forward sloping hump for the same reason as having a low height, good sensor with high pcs (companies seem to equate small mice with low tier so they usually never pair them with their top of the line sensor).

2. g303, but it's not ideal at all as the aggressive sides get in the way of where i would like to grip it; more of a claw or claw/palm mouse.
Would've been almost perfect with flat sides.
Edited by TriviumKM - 2/3/16 at 2:23pm
post #8 of 11
I palm for random browsing, turn based games, etc, but when I FPS game, I use fingertip.

1) Light weight; Low LOD; no/little prediction/acceleration; \_/ shaped; non-Ergonomic; Medium/Small width; low-profile front-to-back; short length; non-mushy clicks
2) Zowie FK '14/Logitech MX300
Edited by Robobot - 2/3/16 at 1:45pm
post #9 of 11
1. Light weight, medium LOD, ambidextrous, no aggressive thumb indent like the g400, straight from front to back, not too low, sensor slightly forward.
2. Mostly G303 and some Intelli 3.0 (yes, I fingertip it). WMO on it's way.
post #10 of 11
1a. Small overall dimensions: length should be under 105mm, width should be under 70mm. Light weight is also required.
1b. When held naturally, the center of grip-- the point in the middle of your points of contact with the mouse, that is, for fingertip grip, the point in the middle of where all your fingers touch it-- must coincide with ALL of the following simultaneously: the center of mass, the center of drag, and the sensor position. You must be able to press the mouse buttons comfortably with CoG aligned with CoM, CoD, and sensor. Note that almost all mice fail this for fingertip grip, leading to inferior physical control. In particular, any mouse where the buttons do not extend at least 2/3rds of the way back is almost certain to fail. This is actually a criterion for all grips, but CoG falls in a very different place with fingertip grip than it does with either palm or claw grip, since you're not touching the back of the mouse.
1c. Must easily be able to push both forward and back with fingertips alone, while holding naturally and able to push the buttons. All mice where the side is curving inwards (moving from back to front) at the point where your thumb contacts the mouse fail this criterion and therefore have inferior y-axis control; this rules out "hourglass" shapes (looking from above), and any oval shape with short buttons.
1d. )_( shape is mandatory for the sides. \_/ fails because, with fingertip grip, all sideways velocity is imparted by the thumb, and there isn't really much holding the mouse down except for fingers that are on buttons, so that shape can lead to accidental lifting or tilting during rapid sideways motion. /_\ fails because you need to be able to lift off a lot. |_| basically has all of the problems of both of those shapes, since the surface of your thumb is round. Only )_( is acceptable.
1e. Some extra buttons would be nice, but conventional side buttons are non-optimal because you can't move your thumb without decreasing control. A side button behind the thumb, which can be pressed by making the thumb flatter against the side of the mouse, can work, but if this option is selected, the profile of the button must be very carefully designed so that it is not pressed by accident during vigorous sideways or diagonal motion. Extra buttons on the top surface, such as at the extreme front left and front right corners, could be a possible option.
1f. All of the usual performance criteria are still in force: a good sensor is needed, good switches, etc.

2. When I use a mouse, I use a Team Scorpion Zealot Jr. I say "when" because my wrists are in pretty crappy shape these days (thanks, Ph.D. thesis! rolleyes.gif) and I don't have that much time for gaming anymore, so, most of the time, I use a trackball (CST L-Trac R2).
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