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post #1 of 6
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Hey.

So I've been having some weird issues with my cpu, it's mostly how my mouse works, sometimes it's floaty, other times I can feel slight acceleration where it goes fast in a millisecond, but almost never feel natural.

When I installed my cpu cooler (hyper evo 212) with Arctic silver 5, it also feels different after each time I do it. At some point if felt normal, but then sudden freezing started happening, like load times of starting or exiting a game too much longer than before, until I re-did the process, so the load times got fixed but my mouse still feels like there is a heavy amount of input lag.

Also since I got like 23-30 C on idle. I thought it was the temperature was too low, so I over locked it to 4ghz and it only made the mouse feel even more weird. Just overall a feel of inconsistency on the mouse that I've never been able to get rid of.

Worst part is, other than the freezes and mouse cursor issues, the performance and temps seems fine. It can run games, have high fps, just acting weird here and there..

What can cause this? Voltage, cpu? Cooler?

What I've tried in this tiring process:

- 3 different versions of Windows
- bios updating and downgrading
- different bios options
- 3 different mice, all the different USB ports
- switched from SSD to hdd
- re-applied thermal paste like 10 times.
- re-adjusted the cooler better, checked all cables.

Interesting fact:
When I switched my cooler vertically, instead of horizontal and moved the graphics card more downwards it made the mouse feel smoother and more responsive than before, I'd even say the issue was gone on the desktop, but not in-game.

When I downgraded bios to the earliest release, it also made it feel smoother, but I discovered I didn't have the turbo option at first, but later it was there, so my cpu ran at 3.4ghz which was kinda bad fps wise ingame, and it didn't fix the issue, but it felt much smoother on the desktop.

Now I'm back to old stage, I didn't change the bios, and I still mounted my cooler vertically, it feels different, more floaty, but still inconsistent.

What can cause all this? Really driving me crazy, and even worse I don't have spare parts to swap around, not can I afford to replace everything..

Also one of my cooler screws (only one) would sometimes be loose under mounting, so I have to be more careful squeezing it down.. My cooler can wiggle a very tiny bit for me to be able to fit the screws in place otherwise they'll be off position. But once everything is settled, the cooler is in place, and I have no issues with temperatures, never had.. but maybe this is the reason.. Should I buy a new cooler or is it my cpu?

Thanks
Edited by Aymanb - 2/3/16 at 10:40am
post #2 of 6
Thread Starter 
Worth to note. If I don't overclock the CPU, some very slow loads occurs. But if I overclock it, the load issue disappears, however the feeling of the mouse becomes WORSE.

Specs:

Intel i5-3570k
MSI Z77A-G43
Nvidia GeForce 660 Ti
Hyper evo 212
8 by ram.

So basically the higher the MHZ it's running, the worse mouse feeling and overall behavior is.. but I can't figure out what's causing this.. CPU dying? motherboard settings not properly set for the CPU? (ive had past issues with the mobo not resetting settings properly to default, but most things are at auto) cpu cooler not sitting right?? but isnt the cpu cooler only about temps, which are looking fine?
Edited by Aymanb - 2/3/16 at 10:52am
post #3 of 6
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More strange things happening...

Flashed BIOS again, same version. dno which settings were reset, but CPU-Z is saying cpu is now running at 1500-3600-3800 mhz, with a voltage of 0.8 and 0.9, keep jumping inbetween.

Also things feels better than before... I'm completely mindblown and can't figure out if it's the motherboard, or the cpu, or the cooler..

I'm suspecting that because it downclocks to 1.6ghz in idle, the mouse feels better? but if I go ingame, or it automatically jumps up to 3.8ghz ish, the feeling becomes worse? only explanation for this bios flash change that I have, since my cpu freq's have definitely changed behavior.

would appreciate a second mind on this..
Edited by Aymanb - 2/3/16 at 1:22pm
post #4 of 6
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Latest update.... I seem to have "fixed" the problem on desktop. I did these three things:

1. Moved the GPU back up
2. I switched the sata cable, and I plugged the cable into another sata slot on my motherboard.
3. Reset BIOS to default.

So far I've also noticed that my CPU, for some reason, is now running full 3800mhz without downgrading to 1600mhz as it did before.

What can be the cause of all this?!?!
post #5 of 6
1600 MHz is just intel speed step doing it's work.

What you're seeing is that the CPU downclocks to 1600 MHz when it's idling. Then it turbos up to 3.8 GHz when there is a considerable amount of load on the CPU. Same for the voltage, 0.8-0.9v~ is normal for idle.

For the mouse issue, I don't know whats going on.

Do you have enhance pointer precision disabled through Control Panel mouse settings?
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Western Digital 1 TB Pioneer Noctua NH-U9B Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell Monitor Logitech G110 Antec 750W Thermaltake Aluminium Old Case 
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post #6 of 6
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benjamen50 View Post

1600 MHz is just intel speed step doing it's work.

What you're seeing is that the CPU downclocks to 1600 MHz when it's idling. Then it turbos up to 3.8 GHz when there is a considerable amount of load on the CPU. Same for the voltage, 0.8-0.9v~ is normal for idle.

For the mouse issue, I don't know whats going on.

Do you have enhance pointer precision disabled through Control Panel mouse settings?

It's nothing software related, I've checked everything, and I know how acceleration feels, this is not the same, this is more like a loose connection feeling, v-sync, lag, 20 fps... these kind of stuff, something is struggling to perform and I can't put a finger on what it causing this.

1. Moved the GPU back up
2. I switched the sata cable, and I plugged the cable into another sata slot on my motherboard.
3. Reset BIOS to default.

^ one, or more of these things have made it feel slightly better, but not 100% eliminated the problem. I've tried a different SSD, both have same problem, so I don't think it's harddrive related.
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