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Missed this post, so I'm replying out of order...

I might be able to get a picture soon, but everything I've used press nuts on is installed in an aircraft currently.

I agree, that's a bad example of a press nut. It looks like he de-burred the hole or really messed up when drilling it. There should be no sanding needed; just drill a clean hole, press in the nut and you are good to go.

Actually I think he did both lol. So then it doesn't look like that normally?
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Actually I think he did both lol. So then it doesn't look like that normally?
Not at all. It's odd that the only examples I can find online look awful.
 
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False Case labs contains no steel in there cases.

From there site,

"Our cases are manufactured using only heavy gauge all aluminum construction. Unlike some imports using thin .040'' (1mm) aluminum, our cases are made from .090” (2.3mm) for the frame and .063” (1.6mm) for the doors and exterior covers. The Mercury side covers are made from .050'' (1.3mm). This heavy gauge material creates a case that can stand up to the rigors of large scale water cooling and frequent system tear-downs. Aluminum is much lighter than steel, dissipates heat better, and is easier to mod."

Then it would help if you owned or seen a case labs case, there isn't any steel plates behind the screw areas. Where you came up with this idea IDK but you are wrong neither case labs or mountain mods uses steel at all.

I own 3 caselabs cases and I can see the steel reinforced areas.

makes me so happy seeing someone who is speaking something that they "know" even when there is no truth behind it.
     
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I own 3 caselabs cases and I can see the "steel reinforced areas".

makes me so happy seeing someone who is speaking something that they "know" even when there is no truth behind it.

Sorry Buddy but a Steel thread insert is not a "steel reinforced areas" so try again.

"something that they "know" even when there is no truth behind it." So true I agree 100%

"there isn't any steel plates behind the screw areas" As you can see there was confusion as to what he referred when he stated steel reinforced,

Also "If properly inserted, finished, and painted, you would never know they are there other than by the strength of the threaded connection or by sanding away the paint and inspecting closely for a seam."

went on to complicate the conversation as this is very far from the truth. Steel thread fastners are applied post powder coating and even if before cannot be powder coated, they also protrude from the sheet, some less than others. I did know they could not and are not ever powder coated, however until today did not know they were meant to be applied post powder coating.

"They may be used to repair a stripped threaded hole, provide a durable threaded hole in a soft material, place a thread on a material too thin to accept it, mold or cast threads into a workpiece thereby eliminating a machining operation, or simplify changeover from unified to metric threads or vice versa.[1]"

They are not for "Reinforcement, they are there in this case because alu is soft and threads would get damaged without them.

And that mistake was made again here. "solid reinforced screw points" ummm no see he is not understanding what a threaded insert is for and thus we both got confused what each other was talking about. He was right and so was I there was simply a barrier of communication.

BTW the case labs rep also disagrees that its "Steel Reinforcement"

Me "I was recently told that CL cases have steel reinforcement in the threaded areas and was wondering if this was true?"

Kevin "Well I wouldn't say they have steel reinforcement, but all of our threaded fasteners are made from steel or stainless steel. So it's steel or stainless steel threaded inserts in aluminum parts. Hope that helps"

From when I asked him here, http://www.overclock.net/t/1590053/case-labs-cases-steel-reinforcement.

So I guess your right darn Kevin he doesn't know what he is talking about doh.gif.

And again for reference look at what the comment was directed to, It was stated that the Aluminum would not be as rigid with screws tapped in. This is not true and the steel inserts do not add anything in the form of case rigidity only that of the thread, the tapping would provide the same rigidity just be stripped easier than steel.

So by all means speak some more about what you do not know.

BTW for the TLDR, this can all be summed here "there isn't any steel plates behind the screw areas." That is steel reinforcement and CL cases do not posses it. It was a miscommunication. Threaded insert do not "Reinforce" anything they simply provide more durable threads no more no less.
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Well just an update I decided to just go with rivets boy was that a bad idea. So the only red rivets I could find were steel, which I figured would work out just fine and be stronger. I was horrible wrong, They may be fine if you have a pneumatic rivet gun, with a hand gun I have chipped my PC 3 times had one rivet not work right which has taken 10 mins of drilling and it still isn't even out and they are very very hard to put in. Oh and the reason I went them them, because they are red ya well that red paint is coming right off putting the things in this is a nightmare.
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