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normal quiet environment

But then we get to the question of what's normal and quiet?
   
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But then we get to the question of what's normal and quiet?
I think 25-30dB .. somewhere that reflects sound normally, not a sound room with surfaces that absorbs everything
Obviously this is only my thinking and nothing more. wink.gif
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I don't know if it matters that they use dBA.
How do you mean?
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sound measurement is absolute, however perception of sound is subjective.

tonality and harmonics can make sounds seem "louder" or "quieter" to the ear, however it's not so much to the instruments measuring the sound. a perfect example would be something like coil whine. on an instrument, it may not register a very high dB level. however to the ear that happens to be attuned to the frequency of the whine, it's the loudest noise you can hear biggrin.gif

so, the arguments here is somewhat none productive since it really all depends on the conditions and the tone of the noise. a long time ago, i didn't think the noise of HDD platters spinning bothered me as much as the drive heads slashing across the platters. however i've gotten so used to SSD these days, the spinning platter noise actually cause me more of a stress then the drive heads moving around the drive. another issues is the ambient noise where the system is placed. a 23db GPU may seem absolutely silent in an environment where the ambient noise level is 32db. but in the bedroom at the dead of night where ambient noise is around 15 db, that same 23db GPU may be loud enough to keep you awake.

the bottom line is each of us have our own comfort level as to what we consider "quiet" my personal threshold is the sound of a central AC unit. if the system is quieter then the central AC unit when the air conditioner is on, then it's considered "quiet" my logic is if i can fall asleep while the air conditioner is running, then any noise level below that is "acceptable". obviously the noise level of each air conditioner is different and depending on where it's located and what room you are in, the noise level can vary greatly, however like i said, it's MY threshold for my house. all i can say is it's quieter then the crickets outside my house at night biggrin.gif

i know people who are perfectly comfortable with the noise level of a fan going at 1200 RPM, personally i prefer the noise level of a fan at around 700RPM or less. it's all subjective so we can argue all day and night and will never come to a consensus on what is considered "quiet" or "silent" smile.gif
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Most everyone else's noise measurements are higher because of ambient noise and limitations of sound meters used. Numbers get crushed against the noise floor and 5 dB differences in reality frequently become 1 dB differences on a limited test setup. You need a noise floor considerably below what you're trying to measure to get reasonably accurate readings.

If you look at some of the things they've measured over the years like a Gentle Typhoon AP-14 (1450 rpm model) at 20 dB SPL, that's in close agreement with Scythe's spec of 21 dB SPL, Slip Stream 120 PWM (1300 rpm) at 25-26 dB SPL compared to Scythe's spec of 26.5 dB SPL, NoiseBlocker NB-eLoop B12-PS (1400 rpm) at 21-22 dB SPL compared to a spec of 21.2 dB SPL. Plenty are well within the kind of variation you'd see from sample to sample. For some companies the figures are way different, though, but it's certain that many of these don't have facilities to measure noise that low themselves. All figures A-weighted.

Noises that in practice barely increase a reading on a noise meter, even within its range, can be readily audible—and sound "noisy"—to people if most of the energy occurs either intermittently or in a narrow bandwidth.


SPCR probably deserves more credit and respect than anyone else for PC component noise measurements. Thermal testing procedures and other parts, not really.
Edited by mikeaj - 2/5/16 at 1:37pm
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Wouldn't Thermaltake TY-14X fans have been better than the Phanteks ones ?
What are Thermaltake Y-14X fans?
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Most everyone else's noise measurements are higher because of ambient noise and limitations of sound meters used. Numbers get crushed against the noise floor and 5 dB differences in reality frequently become 1 dB differences on a limited test setup. You need a noise floor considerably below what you're trying to measure to get reasonably accurate readings.

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Noises that in practice barely increase a reading on a noise meter, even within its range, can be readily audible—and sound "noisy"—to people if most of the energy occurs either intermittently or in a narrow bandwidth.


SPCR probably deserves more credit and respect than anyone else for PC component noise measurements. Thermal testing procedures and other parts, not really.
I agree.
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I didnt underline 'demand' but anyway, i may have meant thermalright maybe somehow
 
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Come on, Doyll - he's French. Probably half your posts recommend ThermalRight Ty-14whateverfitstheapplication. :roll eyes:

From the other thread you guys are talking through each other in:
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...only to nitpick the word 'demand' ('demander' means 'to ask' and not ' to order' in french)...

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Geez it's so serious in here biggrin.gif
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Geez it's so serious in here biggrin.gif

At least it's not quiet. Oh wait...
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