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Poll Results: What kind of screen coating do you prefer on a gaming monitor?

 
  • 33% (19)
    Full gloss
  • 28% (16)
    Semi-glossy AG
  • 22% (13)
    Light AG (like today's high refresh rate IPS monitors)
  • 10% (6)
    Moderate AG (suggests you have natural light shining on the monitor)
  • 5% (3)
    Heavy/thick AG (why?)
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Originally Posted by ToTheSun! View Post

The poll is missing "AR treated glass", the type used in old high-end CRT's and monitors like the 5K Dell. That's the best solution, as it's completely haze-free, but still retains very good AG properties, much more so than full gloss.

In any case, from the options available, full gloss, obviously.

I would think a coating like that is one that would be almost universally viewed as the best, but will almost never be used on LCD screens (the Dell 5k being perhaps the only exception) due to cost?
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I can't speak for your situation and I never said semi-gloss has less reflections than matte, it's simply not difficult to avoid reflections with a semi-glossy screen so your "half a pretty picture" analogy doesn't apply to me. I make sure I have zero reflections when gaming and watching movies and TV, since the slightest bit drives me up the walls as well. All of my movie/TV watching is done on a semi-glossy TV. I'd like all of my gaming to be done on a semi-glossy screen too, which is one of the reasons I made this poll actually. And I play many games with very dark environments.

Even with lots of natural lighting in the living room and other lights turned on, I get no "giant reflections" on my 50" semi-glossy TV. The reflections I do get in such situations (which are very easy to avoid) are terrible, don't get me wrong, but not giant. You've made me curious about your X-Star.

For those who have concerns about eye strain in a dark environment, an excellent solution is bias lighting, which refers to putting a light source (preferably a 6500k calibrated one) behind the display. Just google "bias lighting" if you've never heard of it. It greatly reduces eye fatigue in dark environments. So use this and block out all natural light if possible, and be smart about your room lighting, and semi-glossy won't be a problem. Of course some of these things still aren't options for some people, and those people will need a more matte AG coating, but for most people this won't be a problem thanks to glorious inventions like curtains and window blinds.

Also, "immersion" and "graphics" are two different words and concepts. Crysis 3 has excellent graphics but isn't immersive in the slightest. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind even with mods doesn't have excellent graphics by today's standards, but I consider it one of the most immersive games around. Story and writing quality (when applicable), an immersive world through great level design and distinct artistic design, role-playing (when applicable) and gameplay are all the most important aspects of gaming to me. I have some of the most strict gameplay tastes and do play some games pretty much only for the gameplay. I just happen to play a very wide variety of games. In other words, I'm extremely critical about every aspect of gaming (including virtually every aspect of game design with 'graphics' actually being least important, evidenced by me playing many older titles) although I prioritize the picture quality aspect of a display above the other aspects.

The sun just came up, and it is still pretty dark compared to what it will be later today. As you can see, my blinds are pretty good at not letting sun directly through unlike typical slat blinds, and significantly dull and diffuse the light they do let though.

The window, with the blinds closed, is the only source of light in my room when I took these pics (aside from the one pic i took for reference with open blinds, obviously). Short of buying full on blackout curtains, there really isn't much more anyone could to do light control this room any better, I'm sure you'll agree.

As you can see, it is almost impossible to see anything through the nearly half the screen covered in glare in the darker scenes, and even in the bright sceens the glare is extremely distracting and degrading to image quality.

Also for refrence, here is one of the raw screenshots without all the glare: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=406071684

Again, this is all on my matte X-Star DP 2710. The X-Star is identical to the somewhat popular Qnix QX 2710, which depending on who you ask has either a light or a moderate matte. I'd argue that based on what you can see below, it isn't strong enough for use during the daytime unless you have gone to extreme lengths to blocks out your natural light, or use your computer in a room that simply doesn't have windows.

If you want, I can take a picture at night without the sun for comparison. I can also put on a bright shirt and show you myself reflecting in the screen at night when the light coming off the screen makes me the brightest object in the room and reflects back onto it. Obviously, that will have to wait until the sun goes down.









Edited by Zero4549 - 2/6/16 at 6:27am
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I would think a coating like that is one that would be almost universally viewed as the best, but will almost never be used on LCD screens (the Dell 5k being perhaps the only exception) due to cost?
Yeah, it's probably too costly. A lot of expensive high-end monitors don't use it, though. It's kind of sad.
    
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The sun just came up, and it is still pretty dark compared to what it will be later today. As you can see, my blinds are pretty good at not letting sun directly through unlike typical slat blinds, and significantly dull and diffuse the light they do let though.

The window, with the blinds closed, is the only source of light in my room when I took these pics (aside from the one pic i took for reference with open blinds, obviously). Short of buying full on blackout curtains, there really isn't much more anyone could to do light control this room any better, I'm sure you'll agree.

As you can see, it is almost impossible to see anything through the nearly half the screen covered in glare in the darker scenes, and even in the bright sceens the glare is extremely distracting and degrading to image quality.

Also for refrence, here is one of the raw screenshots without all the glare: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=406071684

Again, this is all on my matte X-Star DP 2710. The X-Star is identical to the somewhat popular Qnix QX 2710, which depending on who you ask has either a light or a moderate matte. I'd argue that based on what you can see below, it isn't strong enough for use during the daytime unless you have gone to extreme lengths to blocks out your natural light, or use your computer in a room that simply doesn't have windows.

If you want, I can take a picture at night without the sun for comparison. I can also put on a bright shirt and show you myself reflecting in the screen at night when the light coming off the screen makes me the brightest object in the room and reflects back onto it. Obviously, that will have to wait until the sun goes down.

Yeah natural light like that is a killer of course. Looks like I overestimated how much blinds help when the display is facing the windows, especially when considering that's a rather matte coating. I'd like to see if any coating can remove all reflections during daytime in that situation.

My semi-glossy TV (the coating is a lot like the FG2421 pictured in the first post) is in a room with windows on the left side. The TV is only about 6 feet away from the windows. With the blinds closed, no reflections at all.
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i saw this and had to respond, i can not even believe there is a second choice !

BEER ONRY ! beer should coat EVERYONES monitor !
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Matte. At this time I do not have the luxury of turning off lights that would cause reflections and I don't think I would bother if I did. Gloss looks really good, but I get enough of it with my laptop. Whatever coating the monitors I have now have is perfect.
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i saw this and had to respond, i can not even believe there is a second choice !

BEER ONRY ! beer should coat EVERYONES monitor !
Which is one reason I have new monitors. Matte screens are a pain to clean w/o damaging them.
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Yeah natural light like that is a killer of course. Looks like I overestimated how much blinds help when the display is facing the windows, especially when considering that's a rather matte coating. I'd like to see if any coating can remove all reflections during daytime in that situation.

My semi-glossy TV (the coating is a lot like the FG2421 pictured in the first post) is in a room with windows on the left side. The TV is only about 6 feet away from the windows. With the blinds closed, no reflections at all.

Monitor is 4.5 feet from the window, with the window to right side. My full tower is between the two, which helps shade it even more from direct light from the windows (especially the right half, which is why it has so much less glare in the images).

Unfortunately the windows are fairly large and high enough that the sun is completely unobscured by trees or other obstacles, so enough light still bleeds into the room and reflects off the white walls to create what you see.

My previous ASUS TN panel had an even stronger matte that was almost enough during the daylight, and that was with inferior slat blinds, but still not quite a match for this sunny house.
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i saw this and had to respond, i can not even believe there is a second choice !

BEER ONRY ! beer should coat EVERYONES monitor !
Erm.... sure.
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Matte. At this time I do not have the luxury of turning off lights that would cause reflections and I don't think I would bother if I did. Gloss looks really good, but I get enough of it with my laptop. Whatever coating the monitors I have now have is perfect.
Which is one reason I have new monitors. Matte screens are a pain to clean w/o damaging them.

Never had any issue cleaning monitors with microfiber and water, or if they're really dirty some plain old isopropyl alcohol. A soft non-abrasive paper towel works fine too, if you don't have microfiber on hand.
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Have to go for glossy, or, semi-gloss. Just gives the screen that "pop" that harsher anti-glare takes away. Also find the viewing angles to be better.
     
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Yeah natural light like that is a killer of course. Looks like I overestimated how much blinds help when the display is facing the windows, especially when considering that's a rather matte coating. I'd like to see if any coating can remove all reflections during daytime in that situation.

My semi-glossy TV (the coating is a lot like the FG2421 pictured in the first post) is in a room with windows on the left side. The TV is only about 6 feet away from the windows. With the blinds closed, no reflections at all.


I have a wall mounted 50" Semi Gloss TV in the living room, with a large window to the right of it. On a Sunny day, you easily get a glare. Especially when sitting to the left of the screen.

Really depends on the placement and seating arrangements. As sitting directly infront of the screen tends to work out pretty well.


I also have a X-Star Monitor, which IMO has a light matte coating. Compared to my other two matte screen, which has the avg matte coating most monitors have. But I have mine in a pretty good location where glare is not a problem. And I don't see myself in the screen unless it is a pitch black image. The Bezel on the otherhand is annoying. I get nothing like the other guy, and I have a window 4 feet from my chair as well. But placement of my monitor in the room helps. Windows Blinds, and if that doesn't help. Painting the room a color other than white probably will.


I have no idea how people can deal with pure glossy screens. My old gaming laptop has one, and it sucked. Would never recommend one to anyone. Or Glass.
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Light AG, non grainy.
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