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  • 33% (19)
    Full gloss
  • 28% (16)
    Semi-glossy AG
  • 22% (13)
    Light AG (like today's high refresh rate IPS monitors)
  • 10% (6)
    Moderate AG (suggests you have natural light shining on the monitor)
  • 5% (3)
    Heavy/thick AG (why?)
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post #51 of 65
all joking aside i really have to recommend this as one of the personal choices no one can tell you whats best, it is like asking people the best mechanical keyboard, each type has its "+" and "-" and things like your environment and mood can affect your preference ~

at least mine do
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post #52 of 65
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all joking aside i really have to recommend this as one of the personal choices no one can tell you whats best, it is like asking people the best mechanical keyboard, each type has its "+" and "-" and things like your environment and mood can affect your preference ~

at least mine do
The "-" from AG is too hard to ignore, though. Look at Zero's pictures. The grain ruins PQ immensely. The best option, honestly, is to buy gloss and place the desk right under the window (if it's, at all, possible, of course).

Also, AG doesn't stop reflections, at all. AR does, and it's almost never an option afforded to consumers. All AG does is diffuse reflections. All of the light is still there, but it looks like a gigantic blob instead of a reflection on a mirror. Zero mentioned the AG isn't "heavy" enough to block sunlight, but he could put a block of granite in front of the monitor, and he'd still see the reflection. In the end, monitor manufacturers are just trying to solve a problem, at the cost of PQ, but they end up solving nothing.
Edited by ToTheSun! - 2/7/16 at 5:09am
    
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post #53 of 65
This years Samsung TV's will use "Ultra Black" coating, another word for glossy with advanced AR treatment.
It has a microscopic structure that mimics the behaviour of moth eyes to enhance perceived blacks and cut down on reflections.
At least the highest end KS9*** models will have it...good chance the rest will get the standard glossy and semi-glossy TV coatings again.
The tech is there but they clearly don't bother offering better coatings at normal prices
Edited by Sedolf - 2/7/16 at 5:59am
post #54 of 65
There is an unfortunate lack of glossy/semi-gloss gaming screens tho frown.gif
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post #55 of 65
I have a full gloss Shimian that used to be on my non-gaming PC which was great for netflix and web browsing. Since moving this screen to my Gaming PC, I am not as big of a fan of pure gloss. The screen flashes seem worse, and edges seem too sharp. Any light in the room, especially windows really destroys the image with glare. On the other hand, thick AG coating is simply horrible, especially on higher res monitors. I'm all for a very light AG coating.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malinkadink View Post

There is an unfortunate lack of glossy/semi-gloss gaming screens tho frown.gif

The FG2421 is the only semi-glossy high refresh rate monitor I know of, and I don't know of any full gloss ones. mad.gif
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post #57 of 65
I removed the AG coating off of my U2212HM a few days after receiving it and love the subjective brilliance it gives the image.

Unfortunately I kind of messed up the polarization filter while pulling off the AG coating:




Is it possible to buy a now filter from somewhere and replace it? I've been using the screen like this for years and it's only bothersome when watching videos with dark scenes. If not, I wanted to get a new screen anyway tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by ToTheSun! View Post

The "-" from AG is too hard to ignore, though. Look at Zero's pictures. The grain ruins PQ immensely. The best option, honestly, is to buy gloss and place the desk right under the window (if it's, at all, possible, of course).

Also, AG doesn't stop reflections, at all. AR does, and it's almost never an option afforded to consumers. All AG does is diffuse reflections. All of the light is still there, but it looks like a gigantic blob instead of a reflection on a mirror. Zero mentioned the AG isn't "heavy" enough to block sunlight, but he could put a block of granite in front of the monitor, and he'd still see the reflection. In the end, monitor manufacturers are just trying to solve a problem, at the cost of PQ, but they end up solving nothing.

You would be right... if monitors didn't emit their own light. Since they do, everything you said is basically invalid. by diffusing the light over a larger area, you reduce the monitor brightness required to overpower the glare and reflections, and reduce the harsh contrast between areas with and without reflections and glare (in any given spot).

You could actually have a fully glossy screen with no treatment at all appear to be 100% reflection and glare free if you could sufficiently crank up the backlight, but no currently existing monitors get that bright, and you really wouldn't want to stare into one that was anyway.

A bright monitor, with a powerful enough matte film, can defeat all but the brightest, most poorly placed indoor lights. Unfortunately, some of us don't live in caves, which means we have to deal with the more problematic giant ball of plasma we call the sun.

PS - film grain from my potato phone should not be confused with monitor's AG coating grain. Take a look all that grain on my 100% glossy webcam if you don;t believe me. The AG grain on my X-Star is definitely damaging to picture quality in perfect conditions, but only to the extent of slightly obscuring the tiniest of pixel precise details and slightly dulling apparent color contrast, assuming you aren't using it in an environment where a glossy screen would literally become invisible (at which point the poor picture quality of the matte would still be better than the non existent picture of the glossy).
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The "-" from AG is too hard to ignore, though. Look at Zero's pictures. The grain ruins PQ immensely. The best option, honestly, is to buy gloss and place the desk right under the window (if it's, at all, possible, of course).

Also, AG doesn't stop reflections, at all. AR does, and it's almost never an option afforded to consumers. All AG does is diffuse reflections. All of the light is still there, but it looks like a gigantic blob instead of a reflection on a mirror. Zero mentioned the AG isn't "heavy" enough to block sunlight, but he could put a block of granite in front of the monitor, and he'd still see the reflection. In the end, monitor manufacturers are just trying to solve a problem, at the cost of PQ, but they end up solving nothing.

You would be right... if monitors didn't emit their own light. Since they do, everything you said is basically invalid. by diffusing the light over a larger area, you reduce the monitor brightness required to overpower the glare and reflections, and reduce the harsh contrast between areas with and without reflections and glare (in any given spot).

You could actually have a fully glossy screen with no treatment at all appear to be 100% reflection and glare free if you could sufficiently crank up the backlight, but no currently existing monitors get that bright, and you really wouldn't want to stare into one that was anyway.

A bright monitor, with a powerful enough matte film, can defeat all but the brightest, most poorly placed indoor lights. Unfortunately, some of us don't live in caves, which means we have to deal with the more problematic giant ball of plasma we call the sun.

PS - film grain from my potato phone should not be confused with monitor's AG coating grain. Take a look all that grain on my 100% glossy webcam if you don;t believe me. The AG grain on my X-Star is definitely damaging to picture quality in perfect conditions, but only to the extent of slightly obscuring the tiniest of pixel precise details and slightly dulling apparent color contrast, assuming you aren't using it in an environment where a glossy screen would literally become invisible (at which point the poor picture quality of the matte would still be better than the non existent picture of the glossy).
I know what AG grain looks like. I have Dell monitors with AG at work. I've had monitors with AG coatings at home. I've seen them everywhere. I know what it looks like, and your pics show it VERY clearly. It ruins PQ, pure and simple.

Also, i don't really understand what you were trying to say about brightness, reflections, and coatings. It didn't make any sense to me. Either way, i have a monitor with an AR treated glass only. It has absolutely no form of AG. It sits in my room with a window open. I use it everyday with daylight. No reflections.
    
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