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Hey everybody,

Its been a while since I posted on OCN and hopefully i'll be able to contribute more to the community over the next few weeks/months. For a while now i've been having performance & heat issues with the stock mail app, as every time I open the application the system slows to a halt and shows the umbrella loading icon while it tries to keep up. While it does this the laptop heats up as if quite a lot of load is being put on the processor, however if i manage to open the Mail.app activity window nothing is shown to be currently happening (retrieving mail, sending etc).

I've tried rebuilding the mailboxes too out of curiosity to see if it worked and it didn't. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas of what could be causing the issue or if I should just switch to a different app for mail, i'll put my specs below too.

Macbook Pro 13 Mid-2014
2.6Ghz i5, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD.

Mail app has one iCloud address in use and two exchange ones.
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How much email do you have? Right click on your inbox and click get info. It should tell you how much mail you have. If Mail gets too big in size, it will start acting up and whatnot.

Additionally, for a real rebuild, you can do this neat trick.

Click "go" in finder, then press and hold the option key. You will see Library show up.

Go into the Library and look for a folder called Mail

In Mail > V2 (or V3) look for a folder called MailData I believe. There are 3 files with the name "envelope Index" on them. Delete all three with mail closed.

Open Mail again, then you will see it come up with a dialog box. It will begin doing a rebuild of all mail containers and whatnot.

Unless this is what you did.

If you do not have any "on my mac" folders, why not just delete the entire mail folder under library, open mail and add your email accounts back in? It will redownload your mail with a whole new everything. With iCloud and Exchange, everything is stored serverside.
 
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The biggest account on there is less than 200MB~ as I did have a big clearout a while ago when the app choked itself to death. I did do your real rebuild and it does seem much snappier now so i'm hoping that got it sorted and thanks for that advice! thumb.gif

If it ends up doing the same again do you have any idea what it could be? Every few weeks/months it seems like its put itself back in the same position, or is it just one of the applications "features"?
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Seems like to me it USA database issue. Apple mail used SQLite, so it is possible for it to get messed up.

There is a command you can try:
sqlite3 ~/Library/Mail/V2/MailData/Envelope\ Index vacuum;

Where it has v2 put V3 if your mail library resides there.

This has to be ran from terminal. Works wonders. smile.gif
 
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Thanks for that Xeb! Seems to be working way better now biggrin.gif
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Welcome. Them years of being one of the best mac techs in the NY area helps biggrin.gif
 
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I have seen a lot of your posts, you do seem like the king of Mac round these parts!

On a side note, is the SSD on the Mid 2014 MBP 13" replaceable? If so is it a standard M.2 one?
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It is, but it is not a standard M.2. I am not even sure what the hell it is.




It is some kind of proprietary thing they did. You can get them on ebay and whatnot, but they are expensive... and OWC has yet to come out with one D:

Also, you can use this for magic:
http://eshop.sintech.cn/ngff-m2-pcie-ssd-card-as-2013-2014-2015-macbook-ssd-p-1139.html
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Is that a connector converter? I saw a couple of drives coming from China with some of those things literally duct taped on, but was way to wary to pull the trigger. Its a shame as even though this thing is coming up for two-years old the only thing that i dislike is the measly 128GB of storage. Sadly it seems like 256GB SSD's on UK ebay is still 200GBP+ mad.gif
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