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Never in my 15 years of personal computing has it happened. Alas, never say never....

In the event it does though, why would I trust my AV to fully handle it? I wouldn't. That's why I have all my important (known to be safe) documents on my encrypted NAS. I'd format the infected PC every time. I just don't see the need for an anti virus... don't need my PC being bogged down by anything... don't need some program to scan my stuff...

In fact, I'd be more worried about these anti virus companies planting viruses in my computer specifically for said anti virus software to find to create a need. Something to think about.


Well, anecdotally I can also tell you that I've seen people with pens with a virus they brought from school computers, and they didn't have a choice other than to bring them because they were work files.

The point is, you can't control the stuff outside of your sphere and sometimes you just have to interact with it in the best way possible.

You also only have to go to Microsoft's site and see how many critical remote code execution patches they have issued over the years for both Windows and also for Office. Such apparently exotic stuff as malformed pictures, mp4's, Word documents, the way Windows handles fonts, etc, that allow completely unsuspecting situations to become dangerous.

Keeping your important stuff backed up is only one of the things you can do. If you get a virus and then have to reformat, it's lost time, anyway you look at it. Not to mention that getting to keep your stuff doesn't mean that someone else may not have gotten to take a look also, and the backup thing didn't save you from that.

As you said, never say never. It may not have happened to you, but every person's circumstance is different.
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A guy at work once told there are only two types of people - Those who know they been hacked and those who don't know. If you really want to see what's going on check your router's firewall. It will show some interesting "knocks" on the door.
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I don't even understand the need for having such junk on a computer. I haven't used anti virus in years and I've never had an issue.

Don't click advertisements, use common sense when google searching and going to random websites, don't download random torrents...

I mean is it really that hard to not get a virus... Internet browsers themselves are fairly secure and make it easy for even the most lacking users to avoid viruses, spam and popups nowadays.


See this is all nice & dandy until one of your favorite sites (DJ Worx) gets compromised and goes down because of malware (however I'm still smart enough to not download it), only for them to fix it and get hacked AGAIN to spread more malware, then being blocked on your university's VPN because of the attacks they had nothing to do with. Don't get me started on NFSCars.net. Can't even find good NFS:MW mods anymore frown.gif

Just because a site is trusted doesn't mean you still won't get malware, and that's coming from someone that hasn't had malware or a virus in years (minus the Fappening when I went looking for trouble).
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I mean is it really that hard to not get a virus...
Internet browsers themselves are fairly secure and make it easy for even the most lacking users to avoid viruses, spam and popups nowadays.

It's becoming harder. Legit websites use advertising programs where some have proven to be very unsecure. Ever since two legit websites I used got compromised I felt more inclined to use script blockers even though I feel websites deserve advertising money.
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There was 2 utilities that i have been using for years without issues and now both come with adware and one of the developer admitting it on the forums after angry infected users and unchecking the adware tickbox does not stop the adware getting installed and the other utility you cant install without accepting the terms with no option to to untick any adware period.
At anytime a safe product can be come unsafe.
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the only safe sites I visit are pohub, youpo, redtu,

Funny thing is these days they are probably much safer than most news sites provided you have an adblocker installed tongue.gif
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I don't even understand the need for having such junk on a computer. I haven't used anti virus in years and I've never had an issue.

Don't click advertisements, use common sense when google searching and going to random websites, don't download random torrents...

I mean is it really that hard to not get a virus... Internet browsers themselves are fairly secure and make it easy for even the most lacking users to avoid viruses, spam and popups nowadays.


now you don't need to click ads, just them loading will stuff on there. surei have A/V-less machines too but, i don't use them inet. Even my main machines pick up one or 2 items a once a year with MBAM scans and that's with every kind of ad blocker, tracker blocker, https force, A/V, IP blocker etc etc.

ABP
HTTPSeverywhere
Ghostery
Peerblock
Avast
MBAM
PIA


I feel an AdBlocker does more than A/V these days,
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Easier said than done when site like to fullscreen stupid ads and all you have is a tiny x somewhere hidden.

Whenever something like that happens I usually just turn my PC off. Especially if it keeps opening dialogues over and over again and you have to shut your browser down from the Task Manager. Again, I don't think I've ever had a virus I couldn't find a quick and easy solution for.
    
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I don't even understand the need for having such junk on a computer. I haven't used anti virus in years and I've never had an issue.

Don't click advertisements, use common sense when google searching and going to random websites, don't download random torrents...

I mean is it really that hard to not get a virus... Internet browsers themselves are fairly secure and make it easy for even the most lacking users to avoid viruses, spam and popups nowadays.
Why is it always that in thread about security we got these badasses with their common sense and swearing down anti virus?
An antivirus is just another layer of security. It barely uses anything of your PC nowdays so why would you not want an extra layer just in case something can passed your "common sense"?
Also, you don't need to click anything anymore to have stuff happen. Ever installed Noscript? You would be surprised about the amount of stuff some sites have running in the background.
Or what about if sites you always go on get compromised? If i remember right, this very site had that happen before and this is not exactly one i would consider the type of site for such things. But it does happen.
Edited by Assirra - 2/7/16 at 4:26pm
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Why is it always that in thread about security we got these badasses with their common sense and swearing down anti virus?
An antivirus is just another layer of security. It barely uses anything of your PC nowdays so why would you not want an extra layer just in case something can passed your "common sense"?
Also, you don't need to click anything anymore to have stuff happen. Ever installed Noscript? You would be surprised about the amount of stuff some sites have running in the background.
Or what about if sites you always go on get compromised? If i remember right, this very site had that happen before and this is not exactly one i would consider the type of site for such things. But it does happen.

Agreed. I don't understand this mentality. We all make mistakes from time to time. Not to mention all the cases (many listed in this thread) that can infect your system without you having to make a mistake.

Performance wise http://www.av-comparatives.org/performance-tests/ . Open the report and go down to PC Mark Tests. Keep in mind pretty much all of us here are running more powerful PCs. As long as you are using a decent AV you probably aren't even going to be able to measure it's impact. Why not have the extra layer of protection for basically no performance hit?
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