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See this is all nice & dandy until one of your favorite sites (DJ Worx) gets compromised and goes down because of malware (however I'm still smart enough to not download it), only for them to fix it and get hacked AGAIN to spread more malware, then being blocked on your university's VPN because of the attacks they had nothing to do with. Don't get me started on NFSCars.net. Can't even find good NFS:MW mods anymore frown.gif

Just because a site is trusted doesn't mean you still won't get malware, and that's coming from someone that hasn't had malware or a virus in years (minus the Fappening when I went looking for trouble).

Mark and his team pulled a few all nighters to be able to plug those vulnerabilities. Was apparently a rather nasty one the guy found and then tried to exploit the team for thousands of dollars...
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I don't know, what worries me are those kinds of security breaches that don't require any action from the user whatsoever which can happen even if one is so careful with how they use their computers and devices online.
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Can be as careful as you want, 99% of anti-virus/anti-malware doesnt come into effect until after you're infected.
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Whenever something like that happens I usually just turn my PC off. Especially if it keeps opening dialogues over and over again and you have to shut your browser down from the Task Manager. Again, I don't think I've ever had a virus I couldn't find a quick and easy solution for.

If you think that viruses are still as crude as that you are very naïve. That isn't even a virus; that's just some nuisance code repeatedly using standard browser functionality.
    
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If you think that viruses are still as crude as that you are very naïve. That isn't even a virus; that's just some nuisance code repeatedly using standard browser functionality.

I'm well aware that viruses aren't as simple as that. However, a lot of those dialogues, if you click them by accident, can automatically download malicious software straight to your desktop, and you end up with strange games and applications with the cheeky "uninstall virus", duplicating itself upon the uninstaller and locking you from being able to remove them. I've seen it a thousand times.

After 10 years + in the computer industry, I can honestly say, the quickest fix if you suspect you've clicked on something dodgy is to turn the PC off straight away and boot in safe mode to forcefully remove recently installed/transferred software/files, delete browser cache and leftover files in the hidden temp folder for all browsers. Run RKill and ADWCleaner and that usually sorts it.
    
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Never in my 15 years of personal computing has it happened. Alas, never say never....

In the event it does though, why would I trust my AV to fully handle it? I wouldn't. That's why I have all my important (known to be safe) documents on my encrypted NAS. I'd format the infected PC every time. I just don't see the need for an anti virus... don't need my PC being bogged down by anything... don't need some program to scan my stuff...

In fact, I'd be more worried about these anti virus companies planting viruses in my computer specifically for said anti virus software to find to create a need. Something to think about.


Just because you're one personal experience means you have no need does not mean everyone else does not need one.

In a home environment they're strongly recommended even if you are computer smart

In a corporate network it's essential.
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I don't even understand the need for having such junk on a computer. I haven't used anti virus in years and I've never had an issue.

Don't click advertisements, use common sense when google searching and going to random websites, don't download random torrents...

I mean is it really that hard to not get a virus... Internet browsers themselves are fairly secure and make it easy for even the most lacking users to avoid viruses, spam and popups nowadays.

As a programmer and CASP, there are ways for me to hijack you with Javascript, JQuery, a browser exploit, asp.net exploit, man in the middle, or something derivative of all of the above.

Anyone who has actually had security training would know, putting all your eggs in one basket (i.e. good browsing habits) is guaranteed to fail.

Only good browsing habbits is the equivalent of avoiding sick people, while having no immune system. A.) It won't work forever. B.) Sometimes healthy websites get sick too. C.) Nobody is 100% consistent and fail proof.
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As a programmer and CASP, there are ways for me to hijack you with Javascript, JQuery, a browser exploit, asp.net exploit, man in the middle, or something derivative of all of the above.

Anyone who has actually had security training would know, putting all your eggs in one basket (i.e. good browsing habits) is guaranteed to fail.

Only good browsing habbits is the equivalent of avoiding sick people, while having no immune system. A.) It won't work forever. B.) Sometimes healthy websites get sick too. C.) Nobody is 100% consistent and fail proof.

Your last point ranks among the best advices I've ever seen. Just like someone else said, what's with all the awesome non-cyber security experts here?

Seriously guys, get some protection. Security software and a decent firewall and good practices will protect you. Good practices alone will not. And as far as 'viruses' go - get the nomenclature right. Please read this and then go install some GD security software. mad.gifmad.gif
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I have this installed i don't use real time. I just run quick scan maybe once a month. Finds some random stuff which windows defender misses.
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The pro version blocks dogey IPS not just websites so will block outgoing connects to stuff on there blacklists

Personally I've always liked malwarebytes but shocked to see the HTTP issue

Their Anti Exploit product protects against browser exploits but I've never tested it myself.
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