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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
So guys here I am, i need to upgrade to Skylake.

My budget is 400-450€ maximum for CPU+Mobo and RAM. I can only buy from taocomuter.eu

I have three major doubts:
1) Is it worth to take an i5 6400 and overclock it instead of a 6600K using the money for a better mobo?

2) What mobo to choose? I looked to Asrock z170 Extreme4 and it seems pretty good, maybe not the best regarding VRM's and power circuits. Do you know something better?
I don't need support for 3 way cross fire, i'll be glad if Type C and A of usb3.1 are included, good quality integrated soundcard, but what i seek the most is the good quality of capacitors and VRMs (and so their cooler)

3) Ram, i thought 2400Mhz would be good, is it right? I'll probably go for 16gb, maybe are not used today but for 30-40€ it's something i can afford looking at the future. Any model? I saw G.skill 2400Mhz CL15

So, can someone help me? Thanks!
post #2 of 13
Seems like you're thinking clearly with your choices. I would personally get the i5 6400 and overclock it with the new bios's (I had one up to 4.4mhz with very little voltage applied). I was looking at those motherboards too, but ended up with an Asus z170-a as their RMA service is a little better than ASROCK's (though many hate Asus RMA). I think you're good!
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 
Ok, do you know of any future bios or something that will allow to see temperatures also on non k overclocked cpus?

Since my budget allows me to do that I'll probably go with a Maximum Ranger. The doubt was 6400 vs 6600K, and since you said that a 6400 can achieve the same result of a 6600K i'll spend the money saved on a better mobo. Am I doing it right?
post #4 of 13
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Originally Posted by Mattuz View Post

Ok, do you know of any future bios or something that will allow to see temperatures also on non k overclocked cpus?

Since my budget allows me to do that I'll probably go with a Maximum Ranger. The doubt was 6400 vs 6600K, and since you said that a 6400 can achieve the same result of a 6600K i'll spend the money saved on a better mobo. Am I doing it right?

I can already see the temperatures on my Asus with HWmonitor, Hwinfo 64 and even the built in Aisuite 3.

The motherboard you chose is already solid - as is the Asus. Difference being you'll need the modified unofficial bios from HWbot forums for the various asus boards, where as with ASrock you can download them right off their site.

Here's for Asus: http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=149907

I'd put the money you saved towards a new video card (like stash it away for the Pascal release of Nvida's in a few months). Just make sure you have a aftermarket cooler for your CPU for overclocking. I use the ubiquitous Corsair Hyper 212 (relatively cheap) and it does a great job.
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
These are the components I already have:

Cooler Master CM690II
Noctua NH-U12P
ENERMAX Revolution85+ 920W
Sapphire R9 390 8Gb w/back
Samsung Pro 850 250Gb
Western Digital Caviar Black 1Tb

and the ones I'll buy:

Intel i5 6400 179€
G.Skill 16Gb DDR4 2400Mhz 79€

and the mobo, since I don't need a new heatsink or gpu (I hope so tongue.gif) i'll invest the money in a mobo that I can use for a future cpu update. I'm really thinking at the Ranger, the Intel next gen would be on the same chipset? Because I can wait if there are a new chipset coming out soon (4-5 months) in order not to have my rig became old before I bought it.
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by Mattuz View Post

These are the components I already have:

Cooler Master CM690II
Noctua NH-U12P
ENERMAX Revolution85+ 920W
Sapphire R9 390 8Gb w/back
Samsung Pro 850 250Gb
Western Digital Caviar Black 1Tb

and the ones I'll buy:

Intel i5 6400 179€
G.Skill 16Gb DDR4 2400Mhz 79€

and the mobo, since I don't need a new heatsink or gpu (I hope so tongue.gif) i'll invest the money in a mobo that I can use for a future cpu update. I'm really thinking at the Ranger, the Intel next gen would be on the same chipset? Because I can wait if there are a new chipset coming out soon (4-5 months) in order not to have my rig became old before I bought it.
You should think about getting a new PSU as the old you have is not old 7 years old its not very good.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core I7 6850K Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Kingston HyperX DDR4 Savage 3000 MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 Evo WD Green WD40EZRX  WD Green WD60EZRX  WD Red WD80EFZX 8TB  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Seagate Ironwolf Pro 10 TB LG CH12NS30 x5 Noctua NF-A14 FLX Noctua NH-D15S 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 64 Bit Asus PG279Q LG 49UH750V 4K LED TV Corsair Gaming Strafe RGB 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNova G2 750 watt Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Roccat Kone XTD Laser Roccat Sense Metor 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 598 Onkyo TX NR646  Harman Kardon HKTS 60 Dali Opticon Vokal 
AudioOtherOther
x2 Dali Opticon 2 CableMod E series PSU cable set CableMod LED Strips 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core I7 6850K Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Kingston HyperX DDR4 Savage 3000 MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 Evo WD Green WD40EZRX  WD Green WD60EZRX  WD Red WD80EFZX 8TB  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Seagate Ironwolf Pro 10 TB LG CH12NS30 x5 Noctua NF-A14 FLX Noctua NH-D15S 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 64 Bit Asus PG279Q LG 49UH750V 4K LED TV Corsair Gaming Strafe RGB 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNova G2 750 watt Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Roccat Kone XTD Laser Roccat Sense Metor 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 598 Onkyo TX NR646  Harman Kardon HKTS 60 Dali Opticon Vokal 
AudioOtherOther
x2 Dali Opticon 2 CableMod E series PSU cable set CableMod LED Strips 
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post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
Sorry, didn't understand. I have to pick a new PSU because?
post #8 of 13
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Sorry, didn't understand. I have to pick a new PSU because?
Because its 7 years old and it ripple suprission is not very good.
74mv on the 12v rail is below average these days when almost everything out is 10-25mv.
Seravee
(27 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core I7 6850K Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Kingston HyperX DDR4 Savage 3000 MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 Evo WD Green WD40EZRX  WD Green WD60EZRX  WD Red WD80EFZX 8TB  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Seagate Ironwolf Pro 10 TB LG CH12NS30 x5 Noctua NF-A14 FLX Noctua NH-D15S 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 64 Bit Asus PG279Q LG 49UH750V 4K LED TV Corsair Gaming Strafe RGB 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNova G2 750 watt Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Roccat Kone XTD Laser Roccat Sense Metor 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 598 Onkyo TX NR646  Harman Kardon HKTS 60 Dali Opticon Vokal 
AudioOtherOther
x2 Dali Opticon 2 CableMod E series PSU cable set CableMod LED Strips 
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Seravee
(27 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core I7 6850K Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Kingston HyperX DDR4 Savage 3000 MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 Evo WD Green WD40EZRX  WD Green WD60EZRX  WD Red WD80EFZX 8TB  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Seagate Ironwolf Pro 10 TB LG CH12NS30 x5 Noctua NF-A14 FLX Noctua NH-D15S 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 64 Bit Asus PG279Q LG 49UH750V 4K LED TV Corsair Gaming Strafe RGB 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNova G2 750 watt Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Roccat Kone XTD Laser Roccat Sense Metor 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 598 Onkyo TX NR646  Harman Kardon HKTS 60 Dali Opticon Vokal 
AudioOtherOther
x2 Dali Opticon 2 CableMod E series PSU cable set CableMod LED Strips 
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post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 
Ah ok, now I get it.
Honestly my PSU has never disappointed me. It was a really god unit and it works as well as five years ago when I bought it, I really hope I don't have to change it, at least untill he achieve to make my system work fine without problems.

Do you think that could be a problem?
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by Mattuz View Post

These are the components I already have:

Cooler Master CM690II
Noctua NH-U12P
ENERMAX Revolution85+ 920W
Sapphire R9 390 8Gb w/back
Samsung Pro 850 250Gb
Western Digital Caviar Black 1Tb

and the ones I'll buy:

Intel i5 6400 179€
G.Skill 16Gb DDR4 2400Mhz 79€

and the mobo, since I don't need a new heatsink or gpu (I hope so tongue.gif) i'll invest the money in a mobo that I can use for a future cpu update. I'm really thinking at the Ranger, the Intel next gen would be on the same chipset? Because I can wait if there are a new chipset coming out soon (4-5 months) in order not to have my rig became old before I bought it.

Ahh I didn't notice you already have a 390... I've one of those too smile.gif ... The xtreme4 or Asus Z170-a will both work for the next iteration of intel processor - It will be the same socket / chipset. As another poster mentioned, your PSU could use upgrading - otherwise I'd just save the cash for something else. Want a fancier board, get a fancier board. Just make sure it actually has an upgrade you'll use at one point - otherwise you're just tossing cash away.

I.e. ask yourself what does the Ranger have specifically that you'd like that the Z-170a doesn't? Same with the xtreme4 vs extreme6+ etc.
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