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its called x79 and x99

You're still limited OCing in the same way on those platforms.
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The enthusiast need to stand up and refuse to buy any non-overclocking chip. Period. Watch how fast they change their stance.

Or just not buy the latest CPUs since there's hardly any improvement performance wise.
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You're still limited OCing in the same way on those platforms.
Or just not buy the latest CPUs since there's hardly any improvement performance wise.

Even mid range cpus do the job at this point. Intel isnt doing the oc community any favors by closing these loopholes. They have controlled the cpu market for way too long. Unless consumes change their buying habits, the king will do as he pleases.
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anyone look at asrock's bios downloads?

three different versions; release, prime95 bug fix w/some DDR4 compatibility and now the bckclk block.

guess which one you don't need to upgrade to?

it/s not like you'll get "upgrade pop ups."
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Like I said, even imho it is morally wrong that they are doing this now. But sadly ASrock nor any other mobo manufacturer wont take on Intel just because of this. frown.gif


correct. i doubt they'd behave the same if amd was serious competition.
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correct. i doubt they'd behave the same if amd was serious competition.
Intel's shenanigans weren't in the past nor will in the future be tempered by AMD's position.
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They don't care because they have managed after 3 or 4 generations of processors to make look locked CPU's like the normal thing.

There's literally not a single difference between a 3570 and a 3570K yet the latter allows you to overclock by charging you a price premium. And you don't only need the right processor,but the right motherboard also.

I suggest you abstain to mention anything related to finances,because last time i checked Intel was not so in bad shape in the C2Q era to need desperately to introduce a scam like locked processors.
Locked CPUs are normal. They've been locked since the mid 90s. The issue I have (and many others now) is that Intel is preventing motherboard manufacturers from releasing bioses that allow bus clocking, which has been a staple of the OCing world for probably almost 20 years now.
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correct. i doubt they'd behave the same if amd was serious competition.

Oh no, Intel never does anything illegal or underhanded when they have legitimate competition.
post #158 of 340
Intel may as well just hard lock all processors and be done with it. They hard lock their best chips (the HCC Xeons) and give enthusiasts the scraps. Why not hard lock everything...what can we do about it?

As for those who enable the BCLK overclocking of non-K chips, way to go. What did it get us??? Rather than withhold the knowledge that enabled the BCLK OC and wait until the real chips came out (the HCC Xeons), the advantage was squandered by those motherboard makers who wanted a quick flash in the pan of sales that mean nothing in the long run. If they had waited for the EP chips, we'd have very powerful overclockable processors of all stripes that would allow people to abstain from buying anything newer for a long time. Now, the bug that allows BCLK overclocking is being fixed in Skylake-EP and we get the same old thing all over again...hard locked Xeons of ridiculously low TDP.
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They don't care because they have managed after 3 or 4 generations of processors to make look locked CPU's like the normal thing.

There's literally not a single difference between a 3570 and a 3570K yet the latter allows you to overclock by charging you a price premium. And you don't only need the right processor,but the right motherboard also.

I suggest you abstain to mention anything related to finances,because last time i checked Intel was not so in bad shape in the C2Q era to need desperately to introduce a scam like locked processors.

If anything, the K chips are the ones that are gimped in terms of features beyond unlocked multis.

In your 3570 vs 3570K example, the 3570K doesn't support either vPro or VT-d, but 3570 non-K does. Likewise for 2600K and 4770K. Starting with 4790K however, Intel finally relented slightly and it now supports VT-d, but still not vPro, same story with 6700K vs 6700.
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So i have a sense of entitlement because i crave a simple motherboard feature that will be soft locked and 99% of people wont touch it anyway if it isnt? I think the people who fear others who have spent less money and might use a little skill to get as much performance are the ones with a sense of entitlement. Overclocking for me has always been about making nearly high end hw perform like high end, this btw is nothing to do with money for me, its a hobby and all my hobbies just seem to be under attack these days frown.gif
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