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Originally Posted by xx9e02 View Post

Let me just turn off my overclock and go back to 2.67ghz. But there isn't a K version in my processor family. What do you propose I do?
Turn yourself in to the 'clock police you maniac! Overclocking Xeons is a crime!
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post #182 of 340
The no-K overclock is buggy for Skylake. I am not surprised Intel stopped it for fear of further damage. I personally wont use it for the lack of temp monitoring, degraded AVX2 and non-idle down mode.

However the no-K overclock in Sandy Bridge was great and that should be the way. Extra 4 bins for the tweakers.


Intel had to stop that in Ivy Bridge and so now.

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This is unfortunately the current state of the enthusiast PC building and benchmarking scene. There shouldn't be artificial limitations placed on overclocking period. Back in the day you had cheap chips that could be made relevant by overclockers and back then you had to have actual skills to set up an OC (unlike the K chips and UEFI bios's that allow anybody who can utilize a slider to OC their $250+ CPU's). The reason people were clamoring for this feature is the sad fact that Intel refuses to offer a budget overclockable chip like an i3 or a Pentium and force people to spend a minimum of $250 to get the functionality. Overclocking and benchmarking have long since become the exclusive realm of those who can afford to spend several thousands of dollars to buy extra performance rather than using skill and knowledge to make low end products perform in parity with higher end ones (which is what the original point of overclocking really was)...

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How dare we do what we want with things we have paid for and own!
Shame on the overclockers!

It's like if car manufacturers were to stop people and businesses from making/selling after market parts to make them faster...
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Intel i3 and i5 chips are rubbish anyways
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Shouldn't even be an issue. I have no problem with Intel doing this. Someone to cheap to buy the -K version shouldn't have the same abilities as one that does fork out the extra cash, all be it in a limited amount.
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I bought a Ferrari but how dare I drive it above 10 miles per hour, it's not Ferrari-K.
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I bit the bullet a couple of weeks ago and decided to go this route with a budget ASRock board and i5 6400. Needless to say I am disappointed with intel's decision, even though I can understand their decision to patch a bug that was exploited, but it leaves me in a big hole as a budget builder.

This was discovered way back in the beginning of December when I first heard about it, you would have thought intel would have put the hammer down immediately instead of letting the word get out and the mobo manufacturers ramp up the marketing, this is most disappointing of all. How many other users are in the same situation now as I am with a parts list that they can't use to their expectations. If intel would have clamped down on it right away and the marketing hype been quelled from the start, then we could have waited until the cost of K's came down to a level that fits our budget.

I don't believe I'm "entitled" to anything, and that word has been thrown around way too much here, but the fact is the marketing was full bore by January and many users bought based on that marketing, and intel IS to blame for letting it get to that level in the first place. I would love see how all the "entitlement" throwers would react if they're told at the walmart register that rollback price you thought you were getting just got revoked right before the item was scanned...
 
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But this overclocking requires significant sacrifices, I think apart from having 'fun' unlocking it, the practical benefits are not enough to justify the disappointment
    
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welcome to hardware dictatorship, you better get used to forced redundancy real soon as i swear they would make you spend every year to upgrade both hardware and software just to remain in the supported circle jerk

already there . cant run my hd4850s in crossfire on win 10. ask for help and get called stupid for using old hardware, even if it fits all your needs.
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already there . cant run my hd4850s in crossfire on win 10. ask for help and get called stupid for using old hardware, even if it fits all your needs.

That's weird, why can't you run your 4850s in crossfire on Windows 10? Is it because AMD dropped driver support a few years ago?
The way how you worded it, it must have been working on Windows 7 or 8, so it's quite odd that it doesn't work under the new OS.


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I bit the bullet a couple of weeks ago and decided to go this route with a budget ASRock board and i5 6400. Needless to say I am disappointed with intel's decision, even though I can understand their decision to patch a bug that was exploited, but it leaves me in a big hole as a budget builder.

This was discovered way back in the beginning of December when I first heard about it, you would have thought intel would have put the hammer down immediately instead of letting the word get out and the mobo manufacturers ramp up the marketing, this is most disappointing of all. How many other users are in the same situation now as I am with a parts list that they can't use to their expectations. If intel would have clamped down on it right away and the marketing hype been quelled from the start, then we could have waited until the cost of K's came down to a level that fits our budget.

I don't believe I'm "entitled" to anything, and that word has been thrown around way too much here, but the fact is the marketing was full bore by January and many users bought based on that marketing, and intel IS to blame for letting it get to that level in the first place. I would love see how all the "entitlement" throwers would react if they're told at the walmart register that rollback price you thought you were getting just got revoked right before the item was scanned...


That's what I was thinking.
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This is a real shame, I thought that they would have gotten the go ahead from Intel to allow overclocking on non K CPUs?


It's been possible for a couple of months, were Intel completely oblivious to this? First it started with one manufacturer and then it grew to loads more.
They couldn't have been completely unaware of this?

Another thing I was wondering at the time was, did the manufacturers get the go ahead from Intel to do this? I questioned this since alot of them had the feature to overclock non K processors and it's also been going on for a couple of months.

I guess that's not the case now, which is rather unfortunate.
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