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Just a common sense advice: Download and keep BIOS versions with Non-K OC Feature! Then, someone may figure out how to integrate the same feature at least in future BIOS for at least the same manufacturer.

Is Acer the only one with such an update?

EDIT: DO NOT FEAR! I am certain that UEFI BIOS Updater (UBU) will be able to provide you with an older CPU Microcode for just about any BIOS out there!!! Learn more about UBU here - http://www.win-raid.com/t154f16-Tool-Guide-News-quot-UEFI-BIOS-Updater-quot-UBU.html .
Edited by MonarchX - 2/4/16 at 8:48am
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with people thinking an maxed out i3 + the cheapest mobo they can find is a great idea such a move by intel can be quite useful
for the rest, which know how it's done, really can't see an issue here... would intel force a bios update somehow?
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That is what intel precisely wants ocer's to think.

Intel putting the squeeze oc'ers becuase they can and charge obnoxious premiums on their top tier chips. I'm glad dx12 is being rolled out, so the cpu factor becomes slowly irrelevant and intel with it for gamers. You can only push us so far.
Yeah, what I said didn't make sense anyways, there are no unlocked i3 chips....redface.gif
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with people thinking an maxed out i3 + the cheapest mobo they can find is a great idea such a move by intel can be quite useful
for the rest, which know how it's done, really can't see an issue here... would intel force a bios update somehow?

No, but they can push microcode update through windows update.
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Not going to bother to defend intel on this. But... From a business prospective it makes sense. For starters, the "greedy" company is losing money on its cpu division for the last 7 years. It has been bleeding out of the PC market in the last 3 years. If they where only dependent on their cpu market to drive the company, they would have the same problems that AMD has.

Not a little blood, a lot of blood. Like 20% of value blood. If you are bleeding out, you try to stop the bleeding. To stop the bleeding you need to cut cost. And to cut cost you have to start rebinning chips. Chips that you would bin for the unofficial overclocking crowd needs to include chips that can not be overclocked but perform at spec levels. Instead of binning them at the i3 level, you bin them at the i5 level.

Sorry, you need to start to make as much money as possible from what you have. You need to cut down the bleeding to levels you can live with. Or you will become AMD. Intel is a solid company, but it has to watch their bottom line as the market shifts. If they do not, they will go the same way as AMD. They are not too big to fail. Cellphone can do 99% of what normal people want from a PC. Which means over priced, over powered CPU's are not the norm anymore. Overclocking, though popular with 10% of the pc users, is not popular with the 90% of normal users. Giving normal users a CPU that can overclock at a lost to the company is just dumb.

So you reserve your overclockable CPU for those that will buy them, and you rebin the lower cpu's to save money. OR you continue to bleed out money until you say screw it and scrap the whole project down to what will sell to the 90%.

Yes, this is the beginning of the end for overclocking pc's. Because to be honest, it really does not give you anything extra that modern software can use. We are currently limited by what the software can do, not by what the hardware can.
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That is what intel precisely wants ocer's to think.

Intel putting the squeeze oc'ers becuase they can and charge obnoxious premiums on their top tier chips. I'm glad dx12 is being rolled out, so the cpu factor becomes slowly irrelevant and intel with it for gamers. You can only push us so far.

For me it's is not worth the effort to overclock an i3 chip. When I overclock I want the absolute best there is and then push it even further. Once a chip is no longer top of the line and I put it into some other pc like a server or media center I don't even bother overclocking. What makes people buy i3s and spend the effort to overclock them and still have an inferior system? Why not spend that time making some money and getting far bigger boost in performance by buying top of the line?
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I side with Intel on this. If you wanted to Overclock then you need to buy a K series.

If anyone is to blame for "putting the cat back in the bag" go QQ the motherboard manufacturers for going along with it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keikei View Post

That is what intel precisely wants ocer's to think.



Intel putting the squeeze oc'ers becuase they can and charge obnoxious premiums on their top tier chips. I'm glad dx12 is being rolled out, so the cpu factor becomes slowly irrelevant and intel with it for gamers. You can only push us so far.


For me it's is not worth the effort to overclock an i3 chip. When I overclock I want the absolute best there is and then push it even further. Once a chip is no longer top of the line and I put it into some other pc like a server or media center I don't even bother overclocking. What makes people buy i3s and spend the effort to overclock them and still have an inferior system? Why not spend that time making some money and getting far bigger boost in performance by buying top of the line?

 



Your rig seems to severely collide with the statement you've written...
   
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Not going to bother to defend intel on this. But... From a business prospective it makes sense. For starters, the "greedy" company is losing money on its cpu division for the last 7 years. It has been bleeding out of the PC market in the last 3 years. If they where only dependent on their cpu market to drive the company, they would have the same problems that AMD has.

Not a little blood, a lot of blood. Like 20% of value blood. If you are bleeding out, you try to stop the bleeding. To stop the bleeding you need to cut cost. And to cut cost you have to start rebinning chips. Chips that you would bin for the unofficial overclocking crowd needs to include chips that can not be overclocked but perform at spec levels. Instead of binning them at the i3 level, you bin them at the i5 level.

Sorry, you need to start to make as much money as possible from what you have. You need to cut down the bleeding to levels you can live with. Or you will become AMD. Intel is a solid company, but it has to watch their bottom line as the market shifts. If they do not, they will go the same way as AMD. They are not too big to fail. Cellphone can do 99% of what normal people want from a PC. Which means over priced, over powered CPU's are not the norm anymore. Overclocking, though popular with 10% of the pc users, is not popular with the 90% of normal users. Giving normal users a CPU that can overclock at a lost to the company is just dumb.

So you reserve your overclockable CPU for those that will buy them, and you rebin the lower cpu's to save money. OR you continue to bleed out money until you say screw it and scrap the whole project down to what will sell to the 90%.

Yes, this is the beginning of the end for overclocking pc's. Because to be honest, it really does not give you anything extra that modern software can use. We are currently limited by what the software can do, not by what the hardware can.
Forgive me, but I cannot weep for a company that only netted $11 billion last year.
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