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For new and budget builds, they're definitely an option. I wish they would make an APU with a 7970 caliber GPU! wink.gif

A little quad core zen with 8 threads and a big fat daddy GPU+HBM slapped on it. thumb.gif

God I hope zen doesn't suck.
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Just take an Opteron sized CPU and stuff it with all the goodies. biggrin.gif
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A little quad core zen with 8 threads and a big fat daddy GPU+HBM slapped on it. thumb.gif

God I hope zen doesn't suck.

Exactly, that would truly be a game changer in so many ways.
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Intel really needs an kick to the butt already. Either for their prices or to push an actual upgrade out the door.

Well, yes and no.
With each iteration intel are either reducing power, or bringing about 10% performance gain (not gaming).
So instead of big jumps every 2-3 years, they are consistently improving.
No one is forcing you to buy a new CPU as long as the one you are using now is giving you the performance you need.

So even with the new zen, even if AMD improve by 2 times the performance of their previous CPUs, in that time, intel have been consistently improving. The 6700K and 6500K are already twice as good as the latest AMD desktop CPU, and the next CPU will most likely gain a bit more.

So intel are not going with big jumps every year, but they are into consistency.
Even if AMD improve better than intel, I can see intel passing AMD again very quickly.
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Well, yes and no.
With each iteration intel are either reducing power, or bringing about 10% performance gain (not gaming).
So instead of big jumps every 2-3 years, they are consistently improving.
No one is forcing you to buy a new CPU as long as the one you are using now is giving you the performance you need.

So even with the new zen, even if AMD improve by 2 times the performance of their previous CPUs, in that time, intel have been consistently improving. The 6700K and 6500K are already twice as good as the latest AMD desktop CPU, and the next CPU will most likely gain a bit more.

So intel are not going with big jumps every year, but they are into consistency.
Even if AMD improve better than intel, I can see intel passing AMD again very quickly.

Ok, let's say even if AMD can manage miracles with Zen and improve further than what Intel has out right now. (We're being hypothetical, right?)

I'm quite sure Intel is or will be very quickly prepared for that. (I'm not sure how but...)

Also, a side note, did you by any chance see that Intel is not an featured sponsor anymore? tongue.gif
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Ok, let's say even if AMD can manage miracles with Zen and improve further than what Intel has out right now. (We're being hypothetical, right?)

I'm quite sure Intel is or will be very quickly prepared for that. (I'm not sure how but...)

Intel has so many options it's not even funny, for example:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1511942/th-intel-xeon-e5-2600-v3-review-haswell-ep-redefines-fast/

Imagine if they released an 18 core, unlocked, and overclockable CPU? drool.gif

That is just Haswell, Skylake Xeons max out at 28 cores!
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Sad thing is, those are all Xeons and I really doubt they will give anything like that for desktop. frown.gif
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Sad thing is, those are all Xeons and I really doubt they will give anything like that for desktop. frown.gif

Well it just goes to show what is staring AMD in the face if they to go toe-to-toe on the CPU front. Intel already has their guns, they would just have to settle for smaller margins if AMD comes up big in order to maintain market share.
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Well it just goes to show what is staring AMD in the face if they to go toe-to-toe on the CPU front. Intel already has their guns, they would just have to settle for smaller margins if AMD comes up big in order to maintain market share.

Exactly, a lot of the high end i7's are based on Xeon ( Minus ECC / Dual QPI support). Intel hasn't had a need to go beyond the 8-6 core configurations we have now. Took us years to finally get an 8 core, and that's $1K right now.

If / when AMD shows up with something solid, it won't take Intel long to counter.
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Well it just goes to show what is staring AMD in the face if they to go toe-to-toe on the CPU front. Intel already has their guns, they would just have to settle for smaller margins if AMD comes up big in order to maintain market share.

Marketshare actually reminded me something.

I'm not sure either I read it somewhere or heard it as a rumor but isn't there something on their cross-license that AMD can just go to a certain marketshare not to trigger some point in the license?

I know this sounds stupid and all and I can't really find what I'm talking about right now but I swear I've heard something like that.
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