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Sure, no reason to be upset when a feature present on the motherboard you bought gets removed by a greedy corporation. thumb.gif

So dont update that BIOS?
Or any bioses after that that fix issues and update the raid crap and memory compatibility, etc. Nah, no loss there! There definitely won't be anyone torn between the two at any point. /s

I hope one of these companies has the balls to keep their bioses unlocked. Why don't they defy Intel? Would they get sued? It's their product, why should Intel tell them they can't use a feature that works?
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I enjoyed the times when it wasn't the money that made the OC'er but the options of what there was to OC.
I second this. Where has this gone. frown.gif
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post #52 of 340
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CPU MicroCode needs to be flashed and it more than likely requires to be flashed in DOS or within BIOS, not within Windows itself unlike many other devices. Intel could force MS to release an update like that, but considering the vast number of Skylake motherboard manufacturers multiplied by versions of those files with new CPU MicroCode per single model + considering the number of possible problems, I'd say it would be a really bad move for Intel. If their update screws up your BIOS and prevents you from loading your PC, some major lawsuits will come to Intel's doors for something that isn't even going to make a dent in their net profits, let alone total sales.
thanks for the explanation bud thumb.gif
I sure need to look more into this
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I hope one of these companies has the balls to keep their bioses unlocked. Why don't they defy Intel? Would they get sued? It's their product, why should Intel tell them they can't use a feature that works?
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I'm pretty sure that intel wouldn't hesitate to flex and assert their dominance
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post #54 of 340
you all are just "entitled"....isnt that whats starting to get tossed around the boards lately when people call out corps on greedy anti-consumer BS?

i miss the old days when OCing was you telling the "spec" to screw off so you could make your room smell like burnt wires.
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I think this is bad for everyone. This removes value from a purchase and sets a bad precedent. This was perfect for people who might want a slight overclock without going the full K route.
    
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ok, soooo


they gonna go like


hey, we have non overclockable chips all around for a "decent price" but hey, if you want to overclock we have these chips for only 1000 bucks, but remember is not guarantee that it will OC...*



* Void warranties if is overclock
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that's funny how ppl think if it wasn't for amd then i5 K prices would skyrocket due to no competition.
they're already hugely overpriced, and that is because there IS no competition from amd. the K-versions aren't even using solder anymore,not to mention they OC worse than 2500K,and all this for more and more money.

and yet intel fanboys are like "damn AMD to hell"
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The entire "locked" and "un-locked" processor scheme is just that, and is crap to begin with. When it first started happening a lot of us were damn pissed.

The first processor I ever overclocked was a Slot A Athlon, you had to move and re-solder a tiny surface mount resistor.
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Who said anything about older BIOS versions? With UBU, you can use the very latest BIOS version and integrate whichever CPU MicroCode available, allowing you benefits of both - bug fixes from newer BIOS versions & Non-K CPU OC from a separate MicroCode. Besides, UBU almost always comes with firmware for several specific devices, such as Intel RST, Intel GOP, Intel LAN, ASMedia SATA, etc., that is newer than the ones manufacturers ship in their latest BIOS versions.

I've done this on my Z77-V Pro. I used the latest official BIOS version from ASUS, then used UBU to update Intel RST, Intel MEI, Intel GOP, Intel LAN, and ASMedia SATA to the latest version, and then used UBU to update CPU MicroCode to a specific version for higher OC! Its not technically a version for higher OC, but it is best for those who OC because it was when it was tested, it showed identical CPU OC's could be achieved at lower voltages when compared against CPU MicroCodes.

P.S. Intel MEI and ASMedia USB Firmware updates require separate flashing and the latest versions + flashing instructions can be found on the same forum as UBU - Win-Raid.com .

EDIT: Also, newer CPU MicroCodes are not likely to provide bug fixes or anything like that. Just like with Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge, newer CPU MicroCodes may very much decrease OC or require higher voltage. The most significant possible bug fixing from newer CPU MicroCodes is DRAM compatibility.

You presume to know how the board manufactures (and Intel) are locking down the feature, such that you can unlock it with any new BIOS. Is it simply a microcode update and not possibly some other BIOS shenanigan edit that is undecipherable?
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Will there be a backlash for this decision?

I guess don't flash the latest BIOS?
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