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I have an i5 3570k with a asus maximus v gene. The V gene is getting too small for my needs with it being micro atx. I was wondering if I would lose a lot of gaming performance by switching to an 8370/9***? I'm also switching because now I'm getting into more VMs and my current board wont support it.

I know I know I will lose performance but if I'm not running bench after bench will I notice it in the real world? Like playing WoW, Smite, D3, or Grim Dawn?
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You might want to read this thread. You might be surprised.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1534128/vishera-vs-devils-canyon-a-casual-comparison-by-an-average-user
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I second miklkit

even if you didn't overclock at all it's still a solid CPU for everything you mentioned.
the more DX12 gets accepted, the smaller the performance gap with intel in gaming gets.
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AMD is going to a lot of work to try to keep AM3+ alive, and you can have some fun with it. The real magic begins later this year with Summit Ridge . . . or so it is hoped!
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I'm reading that its a long read though but great!

Yeah I will be doing some overclocking for sure. I'm trying to hold until MicroCenter gets the new 8370 with the wraith cooler. So I don't have to buy another cooler.
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We all know that FX8XXX CPu´s and the AM3+ platform are very good performers.

Yes, Zen is right around the corner, but for sure will not be as cheap.

Right now the value of the FX chips is very good, more and more games and app´s are developed with extensive multi threading and that makes the FX more attractive.

However, using very old games/engines, your currently Intel is faster.

It do not mean that AMD wont run the app, it will and with great performance, but in single thread Intel is faster.

A example, an old single thread game, in the Intel RIG runs at 170fps, in the AMD RIG runs at 120fps.

Intel is faster? Yes it is. But the game runs perfectly in the AMD RIG? YES !

The most Multi Thread you throw in the FX CPU the more performance per dollar you get.

AMD CPU´s are very good performers, even in Stock form. Mine runs solid at 4.9 on air, with 1.47v and a middle of the road board (990FXA UD5).

Some CPU-z tests, on par with Intel modern parts.


CPU Queen test uses integer MMX, SSE2 and SSSE3 optimizations. On par with Intel i7 2600 HT, faster than i7 965 HT


ZLib compression library.


This integer benchmark measures CPU performance using AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) data encryption


This integer benchmark measures CPU performance using the SHA1 hashing algorithm


This benchmark measures video compression performance using the Google VP8 (WebM) video codec


In F.P.U operations Intel is faster, but FX are very close to some 6x/4x i7 parts.
This benchmark measures the single precision (also known as 32-bit) floating-point performance


Even with F.P.U performance hits, the AMD beats Intel i7 965.
This benchmark measures the double precision (also known as 64-bit) floating-point performance.


In modern multi thread games (BF4, Crysis3, Company Of Heroes 2, Wolfeinstein Series), AMD runs on par/better than most i5/i7 Intel processors.

FX8XXX CPU´s are solid performers !

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Edited by jclafi - 2/5/16 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by jclafi View Post

We all know that FX8XXX CPu´s and the AM3+ platform are very good performers.

Yes, Zen is right around the corner, but for sure will not be as cheap.

Right now the value of the FX chips is very good, more and more games and app´s are developed with extensive multi threading and that maked the FX more attractive.

However, using very old games/engines, your currently Intel is faster.

It do not mean that AMD wont run the app, it will and with great performance, but in single thread Intel is faster.

A example, an old single thread game, in the Intel RIG runs at 170fps, in the AMD RIG runs at 120fps.

Intel is faster? Yes it is. But the game runs perfectly in the AMD RIG? YES !

The most Multi Thread you throw in the FX CPU the more performance per dollar you get.

AMD CPU´s are very good performers, even in Stock form. Mine runs solid at 4.9 on air, with 1.47v and a middle of the road board (990FXA UD5).

Some CPU-z tests, on par with Intel modern parts.


CPU Queen test uses integer MMX, SSE2 and SSSE3 optimizations. On par with Intel i7 2600 HT, faster than i7 965 HT


ZLib compression library.


This integer benchmark measures CPU performance using AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) data encryption


This integer benchmark measures CPU performance using the SHA1 hashing algorithm


This benchmark measures video compression performance using the Google VP8 (WebM) video codec


In F.P.U operations Intel is faster, but FX are very close to some 6x/4x i7 parts.
This benchmark measures the single precision (also known as 32-bit) floating-point performance


Even with F.P.U performance hits, the AMF beats Intel i7 965.
This benchmark measures the double precision (also known as 64-bit) floating-point performance.


In modern multi thread games (BF4, Crysis3, Company Of Heroes 2, Wolfeinstein Series), AMD runs on par/better than most i5/i7 Intel processors.

FX8XXX CPU´s are solid performers !

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Well I cant wait to get my hands on the 8370 with the wraith! Hopefully MicroCenter gets some really quick. This will go great with my Fury.
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post #8 of 74
Get a decent middle of the road MotherBoard (8+2 digital phase), one FX-8370 and some good 8GB 1866 RAM kit, and you are ready to go!

Some fast SSD drive is also a good idea !

A cheap/decent air cooler will be good to 4.6Ghz easy.

Also, about the resolution, use minimum FULL HD 1920x1680 !

Grats now you got a very good R.I.G !

Enjoy it !
Edited by jclafi - 2/5/16 at 12:01pm
post #9 of 74
AM3+ is pretty cheap thesedays. A lot of people (myself included) will point you to the UD3P motherboard, but you may be happier if you do as jclafi recommends and spend a bit more to get something with better VRMs (not just a 4+1 with a doubler).
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I know I'm i the AMD section and all, but have you considered trying to find a second hand ATX mobo for your 3570k if it's that desperate? You can save a bit of money and see what Zen has to offer later in the year then if you wanted to try AMD.
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