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I love my 8320E but if i had to do it over again i might would have just built a haswell intel and waited for Zen. Quick Sync is a heck a benefit too but my AMD does good too in conversion fps.
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post #12 of 74
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I have an i5 3570k with a asus maximus v gene. The V gene is getting too small for my needs with it being micro atx. I was wondering if I would lose a lot of gaming performance by switching to an 8370/9***? I'm also switching because now I'm getting into more VMs and my current board wont support it.

I know I know I will lose performance but if I'm not running bench after bench will I notice it in the real world? Like playing WoW, Smite, D3, or Grim Dawn?

Yes.

I would/will wait until benchmarks come out later this year for their new stuff.
AM3+ is from 2011.
 
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post #13 of 74
I don't think you should upgrade now, just get another board and wait for the end of the year AM3+ needs to die already it's too old of a platform. I say that with the upmost respect for AM3+ if I had an FX 8xxx I would be content with it now but to buy one now, it's not worth it.
post #14 of 74
I would recommend a FX 8300/8310 or 8320(e) since most AMD FX8 overclock to 4.5 ghz unless you have very good cooler.

My FX 8310 is at 4.4 24/7 and 4.6 stable with a Hyper 212 EVO and a GA-970A-UD3P

A FX8 performs great and my wife prefers our htpc FX 8350 @ 4.5 ghz to her 4670k @ 4.4
http://www.overclock.net/t/1535399/500-intel-vs-amd-same-budget-shootout-8350-4-5ghz-r290-vs-4670k-4-4-ghz-280x

And here are some good clocks on a 970a-ud3p (and cinebench runs)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPR_1sktuLd4o975FMUWqAsCM6JrVEOXB
post #15 of 74

You would lose performance, particularly in WoW, which will almost forever remain a primarily single threaded application (that barely offloads to extra threads, 1-2 extra at max). And that game can be a serious CPU hog, particularly during raids, where there is a vast amount of data being processed.

 

I honestly think it would be in your best interest to just find a new board for your 3570k. No reason to switch at this point, particularly with Zen incoming hopefully within the next year, and any real AMD cpu would just be a downgrade at this point in time (maybe not necessarily totally in performance, but just overall feature set).

post #16 of 74
Keep your stuff until zen comes at least. I went from an 8350 to a westmere Xeon and it was a noticible performance increase
post #17 of 74
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I know I'm i the AMD section and all, but have you considered trying to find a second hand ATX mobo for your 3570k if it's that desperate? You can save a bit of money and see what Zen has to offer later in the year then if you wanted to try AMD.
This is what I'd do. There's nothing wrong with the 83x0 series processors, but unless you're using software that can use all of the cores, you'd lose performance compared to your 3570K. I'd just try to score a full-ATX board for the 3570K and go with that until Zen arrives. If what we're hearing is true, it will be an upgrade over the 3570K in every respect.
     
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From what I understand, you need to run a lot of VMs and your i5 is not enough.
Just with hyperthreading, you could get a very nice performance boots.
You only need to get an i7 for that. I don't know exactly what you are doing. I've been running 8 VMs XP with no trouble using a i7-2600k overclocked to 4.5GHz.
There is also the alternative of grabbing used LGA2011 board. Either you get a i7 6-8 cores for it for cheap (if you can find any) or grab a xeon for even cheaper.

IMO, going to AMD = lower performance. What's the point in spending to upgrade but get less? Intel used hardware can be had for cheap (cpu not the motherboards). Your current motherboard is probably selling for crazy price online. It wouldn't take so much extra money to upgrade your gear to haswell i7 by example. I don't know if that will be enough but unless you need to run 8+ VMs and need more than 1 physic core (= 2 logical cores) per, you don't need more than an i7.

I also had the idea to go the AMD route for VMs but having highly overclocked and fast single cores is an absolute advantage Intel has over AMD.
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Still don't know what I'm going to do. I have no issue what so ever getting zen next year too. This would just tied me over until then. I have been mulling around the 9590 with a newer water cooling unit.

Looking at $509 with tax at microcenter for everything

M.2 120GB SSD
Gigabyte Mobo that supports 220w out the box
AMD 9590
Thermaltake Ring water cooling


Zen comes out I spend another $400 for mobo proc and ram. That rig becomes the server I always wanted.


What ya think guys?
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post #20 of 74
Forget the 9590 and get an 8370 instead. It will OC just as high and will do it easier.
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