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Nothing really compares to the FX chips when it comes to overclocking fun. Baseclock, Multi, NB/HT, RAM, you've got it all to work with and the platform is very forgiving. I sincerely wish it could have matched SB for IPC because I would still be using it right now. Its unfortunate that my most played games just don't like the lower per-core performance and don't take advantage of the threads. The one I play most right now is Armored Warfare, I can run it at all-ultra 1080p with a stock 6700k and average 100fps, but even with my most recent 8320E at 4800mhz I had to turn most of the settings to low and medium to even get 60 out of it.


We shall see. Right now in raids I will drop down to about 25 sometimes but with freesync on I barely notice it.
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We shall see. Right now in raids I will drop down to about 25 sometimes but with freesync on I barely notice it.

You're lucky to not be sensitive to those things then, I could immediately tell when my Freesync screens dropped into the 40's let alone below that. But why not give it a shot, like I said they are fun to play with like any other hobby.
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You're lucky to not be sensitive to those things then, I could immediately tell when my Freesync screens dropped into the 40's let alone below that. But why not give it a shot, like I said they are fun to play with like any other hobby.

Really?! Now I do notice without fressync the drop from 144hz to 60hz.
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IMHO, there is no point going for FX CPUs right now. Wait for Zen. Its coming end of this year. Just endure and stick with what you have first.

The power consumption of FX is just way too ridiculous (referring to FX-9590 oc to 5.1GHz).

I am satisfied with the performance of FX when its overclocked. Just that the power consumption is way to high and its hard to cool the CPU
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IMHO, there is no point going for FX CPUs right now. Wait for Zen. Its coming end of this year. Just endure and stick with what you have first.

The power consumption of FX is just way too ridiculous (referring to FX-9590 oc to 5.1GHz).

I am satisfied with the performance of FX when its overclocked. Just that the power consumption is way to high and its hard to cool the CPU
I think this is because the user hasn't calibrated the cpu in accordance with its power consumption levels. If you test the cpu under Prime95 and see that it passes at specific parameters, there is literally no way for the cpu heat to be a problem later on.
Just because Prime95 would trip a thermal error, I'm using my cpu at 4.0 GHz@1.2v and haven't even noticed the cpu fan ramping up ever since the thermal calibration. I could use it at 4.6 GHz, but there wasn't any long term stability, such that cooler choice takes over the user preference for overclocking.
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I think this is because the user hasn't calibrated the cpu in accordance with its power consumption levels. If you test the cpu under Prime95 and see that it passes at specific parameters, there is literally no way for the cpu heat to be a problem later on.
Just because Prime95 would trip a thermal error, I'm using my cpu at 4.0 GHz@1.2v and haven't even noticed the cpu fan ramping up ever since the thermal calibration. I could use it at 4.6 GHz, but there wasn't any long term stability, such that cooler choice takes over the user preference for overclocking.

What do you meant by calibrate the CPU??

I was running the FX @ 5.1GHz 1.52V. But its just produces so much heat that I need a 360mm rad to cool it. Even then, the water still gets warm over time. After I switch to 6700K. I could oc it to 4.4GHZ with an OEM coolermaster HSF at stock voltage. Its barely warm and very quiet.
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What do you meant by calibrate the CPU??

I was running the FX @ 5.1GHz 1.52V. But its just produces so much heat that I need a 360mm rad to cool it. Even then, the water still gets warm over time. After I switch to 6700K. I could oc it to 4.4GHZ with an OEM coolermaster HSF at stock voltage. Its barely warm and very quiet.
Well, the cooling unit wasn't able to stabilize the heat in the worst case, then - which happens to be the point in what I'm saying. It is no use planning on the availability of extra cooling capacity, eventually you run out of the cooler's heat carrying capacity. So much so that, making sure the cpu never produces more heat than the maximum the cooler can dissipate is the only way to ensure the cpu will always run reliably either at or below the equilibrium temperature. P95 in-place-fft's equal to L1 is enough to generate sufficient heat to verify that the cooling unit's equilibrium temperature is always lower than the cpu's thermal instability temperature, afaik.
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That Asus 970 board is a 6+2 design. 6 CPU phases and 2 CPU-NB phases. Similar design to the M5A99FX. Right down to the naked drivers on the back of the motherboard.

So what do you estimate would be the TDP limitations of a board with this VRM configuration from Asus?
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So what do you estimate would be the TDP limitations of a board with this VRM configuration from Asus?

In my experience it works well for the 8-core chips up to around 4500/4600mhz if you've got a good chip. I had a rough time with a 9590 on a Sabertooth R2.0 with fans on the VRMs, but that chips stock VID was 1.560V.
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That Asus 970 board is a 6+2 design. 6 CPU phases and 2 CPU-NB phases. Similar design to the M5A99FX. Right down to the naked drivers on the back of the motherboard.

So what do you estimate would be the TDP limitations of a board with this VRM configuration from Asus?
Probably 4.5-4.6 on standard cooling. IF you are willing to help the board cool Itself then probably 4.8. If you really go mad like me and add coolers to the drivers and use Delta to cool the VRM's then maybe 4.9-5 but that's now pushing it.

Visually it looks similar to M5A99FX but whether it IS the same, better or worse, I have no way of knowing. I'm only judging it from M5A99FX's abilities.
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