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Meh, I'd switch to it if it had Cherry switches
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Originally Posted by Rei86 View Post

I don't understand how some of you can use a TKL board but the Logitech G410 is here..

The G410 would be an acceptable keyboard if it wasn't for that garbage body.

The wrist rest is obtrusive, steep, uneven and flimsy; it always bends when I lay my hand on it. The keys are laid out too high; like seriously, why is it that Logitech opted for a 3mm key travel but they're set higher than other mechanical keyboard heights which ends up being uncomfortable. And the final thing is that since the switches don't have a metal plate set then keypresses make this springy echo sound that can get annoying after awhile.

What Logitech needs to do is redesign the G410 with a removable wrist rest that is actually symmetrical, lower the board height and add something like a honeycomb shaped plate to prevent the keys from making that echo sound.

This is Logitech's issue, they try to inject as many features as possible which bring down their good qualities.
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Originally Posted by BlueNostromo View Post

Meh, I'd switch to it if it had Cherry switches

Romer-G switches are better than cherries
Edited by IronBadger9 - 2/11/16 at 2:50pm
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Originally Posted by dmasteR View Post

There shouldn't be any metallic pinging noise from the spring....

The metallic pinging noise is a phenomenon I found with Cherry MX switches.
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Originally Posted by geggeg View Post

You really should be having any spring reverberations at all, it's very tightly assembled as part of the Romer G switch as you can see from these images by Ripster:

The "light pillar" keeps it in place preventing any movement in the horizontal axes.

I hope so and I may look into getting this keyboard if that's the case.
post #64 of 161
What Logitech didn't realize with the G910 and G410 is that they do not need to have a unique look, and feature spam in order to stand out from the competition. Logitech has a very strong brand name among gamers, offices, and so on. In fact, Logitech is in a unique position where your Baby Boomer mom and dad has heard of the brand and associates them with high-quality peripherals. This is a position that no other manufacturer of gaming peripherals is even in contention of getting. Logitech will sell a lot of stuff regardless of how feature-bloated their keyboard is. This is not an excuse to pull an Antec however, and to sink into complacency.

What Logitech should've done from the beginning, is emphasize quality and key features in the same way that Das Keyboards does. I feel that the G810 is the keyboard we should have gotten in the first place. I'd go a few steps further (I would actually have just partnered with Das in the same way they partnered with Ultimate Ears) and introduce things like NKRO over USB, USB 3.0 port hubs on the keyboard, removable USB cable, Aluminum premium build, fully programmable buttons, other power features.

Extra focus on the Software, over the fancy GAMERZ features would've been great. For reference, just look Steelseries new Apex M800 keyboard. The software on it is easily the cleanest, easiest to use, and in general just the most intuitive software out there. That's what Logitech should've done. Lead the pack, not follow it. Logitech's 910 just seems like a lame attempt to copy Razer's Black Widow... don't copy and compete in their market, create a new one and overlap theirs. You can have a unique power-user, gamer, professional identity.

For the Logitech line-up it would've also been an easy thing to organize. Same keyboard in two sizes. Full 104Key, Tenkeyless. Bluetooth Full Size. If there's enough demand, you can even introduce a Bluetooth Tenkeyless down the line. Do you want to capture the enterprise market Logitech? Acquire DasKeyboard and market yourself to Businesses as well. Create a mass-market 59.99 Office mechanical keyboard for small offices and use Das as your premium Office product. Under the Logitech name and reputation this should be an easy thing to do.

I feel that Logitech is currently suffering from product bloat, which is actually Corsair is suffering from and something I'm really upset about when I look at their products (I don't know much about their business model and whether it's profitable to keep such a varying portfolio or products). Logitech is not a Behemoth like HP where they can have a product for every market and every price point. I feel Logitech will find much more success with following the Apple model. Having an extremely streamlined range of products that makes sense and charge a Premium for Premium products and quality. After all, if you want cheap crap, you can always stick to crap that Corporations throw in for free with bulk orders. Logitech should market itself to be better than that.
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Got one from BB - came with 2 Division Keys (hehehe) love they KB. Feels really nice typing, works great with games and using the F keys as the extra keys (i never liked them off to the left). Volume slider works really well, I use green as my color. You can't use a true white, it's very bluish. Paired up with a G502 I'm starting my new build now biggrin.gif
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The G410 would be an acceptable keyboard if it wasn't for that garbage body.

The wrist rest is obtrusive, steep, uneven and flimsy; it always bends when I lay my hand on it. The keys are laid out too high; like seriously, why is it that Logitech opted for a 3mm key travel but they're set higher than other mechanical keyboard heights which ends up being uncomfortable. And the final thing is that since the switches don't have a metal plate set then keypresses make this springy echo sound that can get annoying after awhile.

What Logitech needs to do is redesign the G410 with a removable wrist rest that is actually symmetrical, lower the board height and add something like a honeycomb shaped plate to prevent the keys from making that echo sound.

This is Logitech's issue, they try to inject as many features as possible which bring down their good qualities.
Romer-G switches are better than cherries

The 410 looks like a cut off 910, and I actually like the 910 body. If it wasn't for the bad keycaps I would be using that right now as my daily keyboard.
Going to check my BB tomorrow, if not I'm gonna purchase it online and just stick it out with either the K70 or this god awful Novatouch (love topre swtch, hate TKL and body).
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The 410 looks like a cut off 910, and I actually like the 910 body. If it wasn't for the bad keycaps I would be using that right now as my daily keyboard.
Going to check my BB tomorrow, if not I'm gonna purchase it online and just stick it out with either the K70 or this god awful Novatouch (love topre swtch, hate TKL and body).

Make sure you PriceMatch if you head to BestBuy! thumb.gif
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I need a TKL version of this keyboard and I don't mean the raised too high obtrusive wrist rest with echo-y springs G410
the Romer-G switches ARE mx browns, except the travel is 1mm shorter and the bottoms are mushy

great switches however there's too much force required to actuate at top which makes it difficult to tap walk in CSGO

Sounds interesting. Travel on the browns is too far IMO.
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Make sure you PriceMatch if you head to BestBuy! thumb.gif

yup, going to thumb.gif
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Sounds interesting. Travel on the browns is too far IMO.

Is the travel of Cherry MX Brown that far? I really hate Cherry MX Reds and was looking for some MX Browns to play around with. The more I got into keyboards the more and more money I've been spending for the right switch (and so far I'm in love with the Romer G and think the Topre 30g is what I'm gonna love).
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Romer-G switches are better than cherries

"Better" in what way?

Better in terms of switches is pretty subjective, I'm personally not a huge fan of Romer-G switches, and prefer my cherry browns.
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