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It's about a build I once made for a client. He's done small upgrades himself and recently swapped his RAM to the other channel pair because he though it might fix his audio issue (while it really was a software issue #sigh). From that moment on things started going wrong (boot loops), until 2 days later he found his system dead.

RAM:
  1. I tested the dual channel 4GB (x2) RAM individually on another system: one stick is dead
  2. I tested his system with other sticks of ram which work in another system: system is still dead
  3. I don't really see any traces of overvoltage, but the dead stick of RAM shows some sticky stuff on the edges on one of the memory chips; the stick also has a strange odour

Boot:
  1. System fans start spinning just fine
  2. Graphics card fans start spinning just fine
  3. Both RAM sticks have LEDs which don't light up. The LEDs still light up (even on the stick that doesn't work/causes boot loops) in another working system.
  4. CPU fan spins rather awkwardly at boot but then just keeps spinning fine
  5. Back I/O panel is not functional, not a single connector is powered. Not even the network port's LEDs work.

I've checked all cables and they're all well connected. First guess would be CPU/Mobo are fried somehow. PSU might be a possibility in case a bad PSU can still power up parts of the system.

Any ideas which component is the cause?

ps: his case and components are pretty damn dusty
Edited by Ollii - 2/4/16 at 2:33pm
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Remove the BAT, wait 1 minute, install BAT, turn PC on.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollii View Post

I don't really see any traces of overvoltage, but the dead stick of RAM shows some sticky stuff on the edges on one of the memory chips; the stick also has a strange odour

Sounds like there's something he's not telling you...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BradleyW View Post

Remove the BAT, wait 1 minute, install BAT, turn PC on.
If you're talking about the CMOS battery, I did just remove it and tried a new one. Still dead.
Quote:
Originally Posted by WizardontheJob View Post

Sounds like there's something he's not telling you...

rolleyes.gif I should've known
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I don't see how swapping RAM channels would cause all that. Like the wizard above said, you ain't heard the whole story yet. At this point test each component separately to be sure.
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Quote:
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I don't see how swapping RAM channels would cause all that. Like the wizard above said, you ain't heard the whole story yet. At this point test each component separately to be sure.

I know right? I'm pretty sure the RAM swap shouldn't cause this. Going to test the GPU right now (easy plug and play in my test system) and PSU (in an old other system with a currently dead psu biggrin.gif).

Testing the motherboard/CPU is going to be a tremendous pain however.
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Quote:
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Sounds like there's something he's not telling you...

Like he was leaning over his phat rig, admiring her guts, spilled sody-pop on the motherboard and did poor job of covering the evidence.

My bet is on the motherboard.
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Originally Posted by WizardontheJob View Post

Like he was leaning over his phat rig, admiring her guts, spilled sody-pop on the motherboard and did poor job of covering the evidence.

My bet is on the motherboard.

Yeah I think so too, sadly I am unable to test the CPU in an efficient way (no other LGA1155 mobo available). Went for the quick solution and ordered a new mobo, cpu and ram for him. The PSU seems ok while testing in another system.

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