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Guys quick question, I'm looking at this monitor (I'm afraid it's the best I can afford right now at my place), but here is the thing:

I own an AOC e2240Vwa, which i 21,5" and 5ms.

The philips one is 4ms, which I'm buying mostly because of the size, since I want a bigger screen, and the response time is almost the same.
But then I came into this review:

https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/philips-284e5qhad/

And he said it registered about 29ms!!

I couldnt find any test on the AOC I own, but now I wonder if the real thing on mine is worse than that.

Any thoughts on these models?

p.s.: I know you guys will probably offer me much better options, but I'm afraid I live in brazil, where everything is overpriced, and the simple idea of 144hz will add 500 dollars to the cost of the monitor.
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post #2 of 8
It's a VA panel, all VA panels have some slower transitions that can be as high as 29ms or even more, will it be noticeable? Probably, but that doesn't mean it wont provide a really nice picture with its high contrast ratio. For normal desktop use it will be fine, movies will be great, and light gaming will be okay too, just dont expect to be competitive at all. I find this monitor best suited for console gaming at a bit of a distance like 3+ feet so to avoid seeing any of the pixels since they'll be quite large at 28" 1080p
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post #3 of 8
29ms is the input lag, not response times
All the 28'' Super MVA that have been reviewed except the iiyama X2888HS have input lag above 20ms, but can't get that one in BR.
These 1080p Innolux panels are also slower than AUO's and Samsungs VA, definitely more prone to black streaking. The 4ms spec is a joke.. Ultimately it depends on the overdrive how much the ghosting can be reduced.
On the other hand, contrast is very high and they have almost a glossy coating, while the other VA panels except for the HP s270c use very light AG coatings.
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wow living and learning!
Ok I went ahead and looked the difference betwen response time and input lag, thanks for the heads up!

I came across this database, where it shows the model of my current monitor having 10ms lag.
http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/

so to sums up, I'll have:

° Worse input lag;
° Somewhat same response time;
° Bigger screen that woudn't look very nice from close range.

My guess is 10ms to 29ms isnt very noticible, since I'm no pro gamer whatsover, but I do game a lot (battlefield and dota mostly) and dont want to upgrade to worse.
I also use a lot of photoshoping, so i guess this philips is a improvement on that side.

A quick search showed me I can get a BenQ RL2455HM for the exact same price, but I still think 24" would be a bit small to watch movies from a little distance.

I think I'll go for it. Or perhaps I just stick with mine and watch movies on the tv on the livign room hehe
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post #5 of 8
Yeah, 10ms is pretty much the lowest the Leo Bodnar device measures on the middle bar so that's close to having no input lag at all.
What's the store you can order from?
If you just want a cheap, solid all-rounder with low input lag and not too bad response times I'd rather get one of the 27'' 1080p VA or IPS panels, maybe one that is overclockable a bit.
Most of these 28'' are great for movie watching, web browsing and some office work but for gaming and photoshop work there will be some drawbacks.
The RL2455HM is pretty ancient, small and outdated. Its just a regular 60hz TN panel.
Not really worth it when you can get the other panel types for the same price.
Edited by Sedolf - 2/5/16 at 4:17am
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Yeah, 10ms is pretty much the lowest the Leo Bodnar device measures on the middle bar so that's close to having no input lag at all.
What's the store you can order from?
If you just want a cheap, solid all-rounder with low input lag and not too bad response times I'd rather get one of the 27'' 1080p VA or IPS panels, maybe one that is overclockable a bit.
Most of these 28'' are great for movie watching, web browsing and some office work but for gaming and photoshop work there will be some drawbacks.
The RL2455HM is pretty ancient, small and outdated. Its just a regular 60hz TN panel.
Not really worth it when you can get the other panel types for the same price.

I could find no 27" with those kind of panels. Whithin my budget (a little over actually), i found the Samsungs27e360, which says its PLS pannel, but since I'm new to this, I dont know if it's any good.

The philips costs about 280 dollars, while the samsung is over 358 dollars. I can only imagine what I could get on that price, if I lived elsewhere =/

Anything better than that is too expensive for me at the moment.

places I can buy from:
kabum.com.br
walmart.com.br
magazineluiza.com.br
shoptime.com.br

I feel most of the use the same supplier, for they have the same things with almost the same prices.
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post #7 of 8
Not much choice indeed.
If displays like the S27E360 or the VN279 are so much more expensive, and you can live with the drawbacks mentioned in the (very thorough) review, then just get the Philips.
In any case its going to be mostly an upgrade from what you have now
The Viewsonic VX2858SML has same panel and about the same properties as the Philips but is PWM free, should cost about the same too, but can't find it in any of the listed shops though.
PLS is a member of the IPS family btw.
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Yeah it's too bad to live here and buy decent things hehe I couldnt find the Viewsonic VX2858SML anywhere here either.
I found an used Asus Vn279q within the same price range on the brazilian ebay. I'm negotiationg and If it's in good conditions, i may take it!

EDIT: thank you very much Sedolf and Malinkadink for the responses and insight!
Edited by victorelessar - 2/5/16 at 6:28am
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