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Corelation between mouse hertz and monitor reaction time?! [video inside]

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I am a frequent visitor of r/globaloffensive. last week a semi-pro named "oskarish" was asking for help because his game felt bad/laggy/stuttering.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/42ynfj/csgo_feels_like_60hz_while_running_around_corners/

Another user made a video with the solution.

The relevant part starts @ 3:50

Anyone got an explanation for that? Can someone confirm? I am sceptical because I've used 500hz for a long time and I have a BenQ XL2411Z (1ms apparently). My game doesn't look as laggy as in the video but when I tried 1000hz it definitely felt smoother.
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post #2 of 8
I could notice it with 75 Hz in CoD4 promod back then with 250 FPS. 500 Hz just wasn't as smooth as 1000.
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That video is nonsense. The response time of a monitor is not be visible in game-capture video. Yes, the higher the polling rate the smoother the mousing (given roughly equal polling stability), but the issue brought up in that thread and especially those videos is not tied particularly to the monitor's response time.

There's this:

And that wouldn't show up in a video either. If there was any merit to his theory people with 8ms response time monitors would have a smoother experience at 125Hz polling rate and that's simply not the case. On higher refresh rate/lower response time monitors the choppiness of lower polling rates is more apparent (especially if you are used to 1kHz), but that's about the only relation there is to that. Which is a cor-relation, not causation.
Edited by HAGGARD - 2/5/16 at 7:47am
post #4 of 8
but finalmouse told me that 500hz was the optimal setting and so we dont need the ability to change to 1000hz. im confused, somebody call r0ach so I can make sense of this. in case he doesn't pick up, dial ja rule.
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I havent watched the video but I believe I know exactly what lag he is talking about. I have experienced it too. I knew it wasnt game lag bc I was getting a 5ms ping on the server I was on. Tho the lag has happened quite a few times to me. Honestly I thought it was the game lagging me to make me the same as other players, idk. But I noticed it only happening at spawns and around other players. By myself I was fine. And only a few times did it interfere with gun battles. Cant believe it has to do with my mouse though, definitely not gonna change from my finalmouse, that mouse is one of my favorites.

Can I run the final mouse at 1000hz polling rate?
post #6 of 8
set your max fps to 250 or 125, 166.66 if you have a 144hz but can't maintain 250
post #7 of 8
i didn't notice any difference when using 500/100hz and capping or uncapping fps and i feel the stutter ingame. this guy also doesn't seem to realize the video is slowed down to run on 50%.
post #8 of 8
500hz is fine for avoiding that "laggy" feeling enough, specially if your mouse cant do 1000hz stable.

Think i wrote about that some years ago, so glad someone finally picked up on it


edit here;

Someone asked this question on YB to him

so if I buy a 5ms monitor should I use 500Hz or 1000Hz or what?

and his answer was..

Great question, I would use 500hz on your mouse, I'm not sure if this issue exists for mouses that refresh faster than the monitor, but I know for sure this issue exists for mouses that refresh slower than your monitor.


God damn, all of my why, just use 1000hz if ones mouse can run it completely stable.
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