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I am going to be building with acrylic tube for the first time near the end of march. I am getting ready to order all the parts i'll need from ppcs but i'm not sure how much tube i should order. I know i'll need to order some extra tubing since there is a learning curve with bending hardline. I tend to learn things like this quickly but i'm also a perfectionist when it comes to certain things, this being one of them. The tubing will need to look near perfect in my mind.

My build is fairly extensive. It is in a cl s8(no pedestal) with 5 radiators, 2 d5 pumps in series, 1 res(adding a second for dual loops down the road), 2 980ti's(adding a third down the road), 6700k, mobo vrm wcing, and a ram water block(yes i know its pointless to wc ram). How much tube would you order for something like this keeping in mind i'll need extra for learning? I plan to do mostly 90 degree bends and will not be using any angled fittings. Right now i have 20 pieces of bitspower crystal link 12mm 500mm tube and 10 pieces of bitspower crystal link 12mm 1000mm tube. Is this enough tubing? Should i order more of the 1000mm and less of the 500mm? More of everything? I hate downtime so i want to make sure i have enough.

I'm ordering a monsoon hardline pro bending kit to go along with this.
    
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I am going to be building with acrylic tube for the first time near the end of march. I am getting ready to order all the parts i'll need from ppcs but i'm not sure how much tube i should order. I know i'll need to order some extra tubing since there is a learning curve with bending hardline. I tend to learn things like this quickly but i'm also a perfectionist when it comes to certain things, this being one of them. The tubing will need to look near perfect in my mind.

My build is fairly extensive. It is in a cl s8(no pedestal) with 5 radiators, 2 d5 pumps in series, 1 res(adding a second for dual loops down the road), 2 980ti's(adding a third down the road), 6700k, mobo vrm wcing, and a ram water block(yes i know its pointless to wc ram). How much tube would you order for something like this keeping in mind i'll need extra for learning? I plan to do mostly 90 degree bends and will not be using any angled fittings. Right now i have 20 pieces of bitspower crystal link 12mm 500mm tube and 10 pieces of bitspower crystal link 12mm 1000mm tube. Is this enough tubing? Should i order more of the 1000mm and less of the 500mm? More of everything? I hate downtime so i want to make sure i have enough.

I'm ordering a monsoon hardline pro bending kit to go along with this.
so you've got 20 meters total, right? I've only done a hardline build once and my loop is much simpler than yours, so I'd take this with a grain of salt.

I've got 5 components (2 rad, cpu, gpu, pump) in a regular mid-tower (thermaltake v41) and I used a total of 3.5m for my first build. I originally was thinking 4m and then parinoia set in so I ordered 8m more to be safe because, like you, I wanted minimal downtime. I'm not a perfectionist, although I am very happy with how mine turned out and I don't feel I compromised anywhere

You have 13 components and a case that is over twice the size of mine, so I would think that 20m would be enough. I would be temped to throw another 5-10m on, but I'd be interested to see what others say. Paying repeat shipping charges is no fun. Also I would definitely buy extra fittings if you weren't already. Hard tubing can tear up the inside o-rings (if your fittings have any) if you aren't careful. I chamfered all my tubing and dipped it in water but still tore up one interior o-ring. Thankfully I had extras
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so you've got 20 meters total, right? I've only done a hardline build once and my loop is much simpler than yours, so I'd take this with a grain of salt.

I've got 5 components (2 rad, cpu, gpu, pump) in a regular mid-tower (thermaltake v41) and I used a total of 3.5m for my first build. I originally was thinking 4m and then parinoia set in so I ordered 8m more to be safe because, like you, I wanted minimal downtime. I'm not a perfectionist, although I am very happy with how mine turned out and I don't feel I compromised anywhere

You have 13 components and a case that is over twice the size of mine, so I would think that 20m would be enough. I would be temped to throw another 5-10m on, but I'd be interested to see what others say. Paying repeat shipping charges is no fun. Also I would definitely buy extra fittings if you weren't already. Hard tubing can tear up the inside o-rings (if your fittings have any) if you aren't careful. I chamfered all my tubing and dipped it in water but still tore up one interior o-ring. Thankfully I had extras

i've actually put the order in with ppcs yesterday. Ended up ordering 15 pieces of 1000mm tubing and 10 pieces of 500mm tubing. A little less than i originally planned but i think it'll be enough. A lot of my runs are going to be very short, really only 3-4 that are decently long. I'm also using soft tubing for the side mount rad since the bends required to for that would be ridiculous and i can't fit my hands in there anyways to attach the tube. That whole area is hidden so it doesn't matter. Hopefully what i ordered is enough to screw up at least a few times. If its not i can still add more to the order before the weekend is over.

You did make a good point about extra fittings. I did not buy any extras thinking everything would go together easily. I'm probably ditching my 120.1 rad in the front, its pretty pointless and will make some of the tubing runs messy looking. I only used it because i had it leftover from my previous build. That'll give me 2 extra fittings to work with. I do plan to chamfer all tubing very well along with sanding it smooth. I'll be using silicone grease on the o rings.
    
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i've actually put the order in with ppcs yesterday. Ended up ordering 15 pieces of 1000mm tubing and 10 pieces of 500mm tubing. A little less than i originally planned but i think it'll be enough. A lot of my runs are going to be very short, really only 3-4 that are decently long. I'm also using soft tubing for the side mount rad since the bends required to for that would be ridiculous and i can't fit my hands in there anyways to attach the tube. That whole area is hidden so it doesn't matter. Hopefully what i ordered is enough to screw up at least a few times. If its not i can still add more to the order before the weekend is over.

You did make a good point about extra fittings. I did not buy any extras thinking everything would go together easily. I'm probably ditching my 120.1 rad in the front, its pretty pointless and will make some of the tubing runs messy looking. I only used it because i had it leftover from my previous build. That'll give me 2 extra fittings to work with. I do plan to chamfer all tubing very well along with sanding it smooth. I'll be using silicone grease on the o rings.
I figured it probably wouldn't be long between you posting this thread and placing an order! When i saw no replies I figured I'd better try and get one comment in!
Sounds like you've got a good handle on it though!
The silicone grease sounds like a good idea to get them in, as long as it doesn't make them too easy to come out (I don't know much about silicone grease). Some fittings hold on to the tubing better than others
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I figured it probably wouldn't be long between you posting this thread and placing an order! When i saw no replies I figured I'd better try and get one comment in!
Sounds like you've got a good handle on it though!
The silicone grease sounds like a good idea to get them in, as long as it doesn't make them too easy to come out (I don't know much about silicone grease). Some fittings hold on to the tubing better than others

Well this nice thing is i can still add on to it today since ppcs won't ship it until monday. I'm using the bitspower multi link rigid compression fittings. I've been doing a lot of reading and it seems using a small amount of silicone grease on the o rings will help the pieces slide together without damage and won't cause leaks.
    
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Well this nice thing is i can still add on to it today since ppcs won't ship it until monday. I'm using the bitspower multi link rigid compression fittings. I've been doing a lot of reading and it seems using a small amount of silicone grease on the o rings will help the pieces slide together without damage and won't cause leaks.
I tried adding on to an unshipped order from them once and they never got it right, I ended up paying two shipping charges anyways lol. good to know about the silicone grease, I'll give that a shot next time. I felt like just water wasn't the best thing to use anyways
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I tried adding on to an unshipped order from them once and they never got it right, I ended up paying two shipping charges anyways lol. good to know about the silicone grease, I'll give that a shot next time. I felt like just water wasn't the best thing to use anyways

i do it constantly with ppcs lol. I'm so bad about putting orders in and forgetting something and having to put a second order in. I've probably put 10 orders in with them in the last 4 months and had to do add ons half the time. They've gotten the order combination right every time. Oddly enough, the only problem i ever have with them is when ordering black nickel fittings. They like to send me black fittings instead quite often. I switched to black fittings for the hardline build so hopefully they can't send me wrong fittings anymore lol.

I also discovered when you order a large amount of acrylic tube from them it puts the weights into the checkout and shipping quotes wrong. My original order weight was 240lb and it would only let me do in store pick up because of it. After some investigation a single piece of tube weighs 6lb to 9lb depending on length on their website. This is because they include the packing material weight with it. I contacted them and had to do two separate orders to get the order weight down enough to even allow me to ship it here. They said they would be combining all the tube together to cut way back on the weight and would refund all the additional shipping charges once its packed. I've really been impressed with ppcs customer service over the past few months. So easy to work with.
    
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