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Riiight.

So, do you think he was wrong? Of course it's about money. It's always about money for them.
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post #32 of 71
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You wanted a premium phone? Get ready to pay premium repair prices too, what are you, filthy Android peasant or something?

You know whats funny is i've had some issue with each iphone i've owned, first was the 4s, power button gave out a month before the 1 year warranty expired so i went and got a "refurbished" phone for free 0 hassle. Not sure why its "refurbished", i think its new cause the shape its in is immaculate. Next was the 5s, same thing happened again shortly before my 1 year expired.

Now with my 6 as soon as i got it i had a screen uniformity issue, with there just being a dark corner, had to shove a little but i got a replacement. Unfortunately the replacement they gave me had a loose home button, like it would wiggle a little if you massaged it with your finger without actually depressing the button. This obviously wasn't right so i had to go to them again to get that resolved, and this was the only time i had to really kick and scream at the apple guys to get them to replace the button which actually also meant an entirely new screen. Finally got a good phone though.

Others may not have had the best experiences with apple, but i find it hard to believe with how painless it is to get some support from them. So long as you're under warranty they serve you with little to no questions asked. It's really nice to have an actual store to go to nearby if something were to ever go wrong and needed servicing. No idea what i'd do with an android phone that may go bust. Would have to reach out to the manufacturer most likely.
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post #33 of 71
The explanation at the end of the articles shows that apple are not doing it just to block third party repair shops, but to protect the secure pairing of the touch ID sensor.

If for argument sake we say that replacing a component like the screen or a phone jack, has nothing to do with the touch ID sensor, this is pretty bulls.
If on the other hand it might have something to do with it, it is understandable, but apple has to provide a direct and quick solution for this to people who used third party repair shops, without forcing them to buy a new phone because of that, or pay a huge amount to get the phone repaired.
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post #34 of 71
From what I know about their Touch ID
When the button breaks they replace the whole phone
The button is uniquely paired almost like asymmetric key signing with a private key inside the iPhone CPU
If the button is changed then the validation of the signal from the new button will fail
I don't know if it's at all possible to extract the key from the home button and then reprogram another home button
The fingerprints are stored inside the CPU and encrypted with the secret key it holds
So even if you reprogrammed a new home button it would never bypass the stored fingerprints
So to me this is all a load of nonsense
Now if your home button breaks after warranty you have to buy a new iPhone.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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post #35 of 71
It makes sense really. I wouldn't want to get the fingerprint scanner replaced by some random guy. Apple could have at least warned people that it would brick their phone, or at least set it so that it disables things like Apple pay.
    
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It makes sense really. I wouldn't want to get the fingerprint scanner replaced by some random guy. Apple could have at least warned people that it would brick their phone, or at least set it so that it disables things like Apple pay.

You can't replace it, all 3rd party replacements are just dumb buttons.
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post #37 of 71
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You can't replace it, all 3rd party replacements are just dumb buttons.

You can.

http://www.mobiledefenders.com/home-button-flex-cable-w-fingerprint-scanner-for-iphone-6-plus-5-5-black.html
    
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I see, any reports of it working? Because as far as I was aware they cannot be re-paired to the key inside the CPU.
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post #39 of 71
People getting all worked up over nothing like usual when it comes to Apple. It's a security issue, nothing more. The touch ID sensor is matched to other components in the phone at the factory. If it's replaced with another one, even if its a genuine part, the phone locks itself down. This is a good thing. It's why if your phone has a damaged touch ID sensor and you send it to Apple for repair, they replace the entire phone.
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People who are laughing this off saying it's a security issue are missing the point. Yes the idea behind this was security related, however the article stated two specific instances where security was not an issue. The owners of the phone still had it in their possession, brought it to Apple and they told them to buy a new one.

That's not a security issue, that's a customer relations/ PR issue.
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