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I don't think that your point pertains very well to this story.
This error 53 issue affects any device with Touch ID including the current flagship devices (6s and 6s Plus).
 
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Originally Posted by RJacobs28 View Post

I don't think that your point pertains very well to this story.
This error 53 issue affects any device with Touch ID including the current flagship devices (6s and 6s Plus).

I agree that it may be off topic, but those were the posts I was replying to. I've yet to hear of any Android update that flat out bricks your phone.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure it applies to the 5S as well.

Anyways, I'll just leave it at that. thumb.gif
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I wonder if Samsung has a similar issue with the fingerprint readers on their devices. Has anyone here owned one and needed to replace it?

 

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Originally Posted by steelbom View Post

If the cause is a home button being fixed by a non apple technician, then surely having an apple technician replace it as they would normally would solve the problem? I find it hard to believe otherwise.

 

Apple never fixes the button, they just give you a new phone. I'm not sure if they're able to reset the key assignment and put in a new fingerprint sensor. Being able to do so would be a major security flaw.

 

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the scanners themselves simply send a signal to the phones internals to decide whether or not it is a valid print right? some of the ^^ posts seem to imply that the circuitry in the home button makes the decision on its own and tells the phone. this of course would be a huge issue.

 

It's like the proprietary cables that Apple supplies for its devices. They have security chips in them that verify that they are proper, secure cables to the device. That way Apple sells lots and lots of these cables, and no-one's able to try gain entry into the device through attacking the USB controller in the cable to feed it bad data.

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Apple never fixes the button, they just give you a new phone. I'm not sure if they're able to reset the key assignment and put in a new fingerprint sensor. Being able to do so would be a major security flaw.

That is categorically incorrect.

When a 5s, 6, 6 plus, 6s or 6s plus has a display replaced EDIT: WITH APPLE, it includes a new Touch ID module as part of the home button assembly. As part of the calibration process for the new display the Touch ID module is 'assigned' to that device.
 
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When a 5s, 6, 6 plus, 6s or 6s plus has a display replaced EDIT: WITH APPLE, it includes a new Touch ID module as part of the home button assembly. As part of the calibration process for the new display the Touch ID module is 'assigned' to that device.

 

Really? The whole thing is sold as a single piece? Hmmm. 

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Thread reopened. Try to keep it on topic, this news article doesn't have anything to do with Samsung or Android.
    
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Apple never fixes the button, they just give you a new phone. I'm not sure if they're able to reset the key assignment and put in a new fingerprint sensor. Being able to do so would be a major security flaw.


It's like the proprietary cables that Apple supplies for its devices. They have security chips in them that verify that they are proper, secure cables to the device. That way Apple sells lots and lots of these cables, and no-one's able to try gain entry into the device through attacking the USB controller in the cable to feed it bad data.

No, the USB cable doesn't work the same as the Touch ID. The USB cable is a one way system, easily spoofed and not on a per device basis, Touch ID is a handshake between the two devices, one on the boards chip and the other on the chip of the Touch ID cable. And this is per device authentication. If this hand shake fails then prior to this update Touch ID just will not work. Now the phone bricks itself. There is not need for this.

The button uses IR to scan the fingerprint, then sends the data to the CPU where the on board keys decrypt the fingerprint data to check for a match. That only occurs if the handshake to the Touch ID was successful. No 3rd party has broken this part let alone breaking into the fingerprint data.
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Well...erm...to stay OT, I do see why this would happen. It'd be the same as an RSA Token attempting to be tampered with.
 
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This has been the case since the iPhone 6 was first released. This is seriously old news.

Its news to me, not everyone has an iphone.
    
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Really? The whole thing is sold as a single piece? Hmmm. 

Indeed.
 
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