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post #1 of 47
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Hey all,

I've been rocking the rig in my sig now for almost 7 years and I think it may be time for me to upgrade. If not now, than within the next year. I have been out of the PC building scene since I built my current computer in 2009. Rocking an i7-920 and GTX 285 1gb.

I would like to keep some of my parts to reuse. Those parts include:

- Case (CM Storm Sniper)
- HDD (WD Black 640gb 7200rpm)
- DVD drive
- PSU (Link) <- will this PSU work and have enough power with current builds?
- CPU cooler (Link) <- will this cooler work with current motherboards/CPUs?

So assuming all the above is still compatible, I'm looking at buying a new:

- Motherboard
- CPU
- GPU
- Memory
- SSD

Looking to keep it under $800 USD (and I've already broken past that budget, ha!)

Here is what I've got so far:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97X Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($131.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($313.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $945.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-06 06:59 EST-0500

EDIT: i5 6600k build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($254.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($127.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($313.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $881.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-06 10:19 EST-0500


Now I am quite content to wait a while longer for slumping prices if new cpus or cards are coming out soon, or using said newer tech. IF it would be worth waiting for.

Basically, I want to be able to play most games maxed at 1080p/60fps for the next couple years before starting to make sacrifices down to high/medium settings. Also want to be able to do VR.

What do you guys think?

(since I haven't been in the building scene in awhile, I also have no idea where AMD/intel/nvidia stand on price/performance scales and what games are often optimized for these days)
Edited by mysticstryk - 2/6/16 at 7:38am
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post #2 of 47
Why are going with a dead chipset and socket? a 6600K would be cheaper and its a newer and better CPU.
Plus you get DDR4 RAM with Z170 / LGA 1151.
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post #3 of 47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shilka View Post

Why are going with a dead chipset and socket? a 6600K would be cheaper and its a newer and better CPU.
Plus you get DDR4 RAM with Z170 / LGA 1151.

Dammit. See this is why I posted here, haha!

I may know how to put together components still, but like I said, been out of the scene for 7 years.

Edit: I screwed up when filtering products on newegg it seems.
Edited by mysticstryk - 2/6/16 at 5:17am
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post #4 of 47
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Here's a new build with the 6600k:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($254.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($127.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($313.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $881.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-06 10:19 EST-0500

Reading up on the differences, it seems like the 4790k is better in some ways than the i5 6600k, though maybe not in game performance? I'm guessing games don't utilize the hyperthreading that an i7 provides?
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CM Storm Sniper G500 
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post #5 of 47
Games dont really use hyperthreading all that much so if you are building a gaming rig the 6600K is fine for that.
Also note that you can get a Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 gaming for $320 and it has both a backplate and a much better cooler then the EVGA.
Edited by shilka - 2/6/16 at 7:30am
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post #6 of 47
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilka View Post

Games dont really use hyperthreading all that much so if you are building a gaming rig the 6600K is fine for that.
Also note that you can get a Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 gaming for $320 and it has both a backplate and a much better cooler then the EVGA.

This one? Link
What does the backplate do?

I remembered that EVGA was the way to go years ago as they were reliable and came with lifetime warranties, which is why I picked the EVGA in this build, though things change.

EDIT: Should also add that I want to be able to use VR.
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post #7 of 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by mysticstryk View Post

This one? Link
What does the backplate do?

I remembered that EVGA was the way to go years ago as they were reliable and came with lifetime warranties, which is why I picked the EVGA in this build, though things change.

EDIT: Should also add that I want to be able to use VR.
The blackplate does a number of things first off it helps a tiny bit with cooling and it keeps the card stright as the cooler can bend the PCB over time so the backplate helps keeping the card stright.
A backplate also looks much better then raw PCB does and if you drop something on your card by mistake you wont damage it if there is a backplate.

There are 3 version from Gigabyte that i can see the non overclocked version with their Windforce cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125685&cm_re=Gigabyte_GTX_970-_-14-125-685-_-Product

The overclocked version with Windforce cooler (i own two of these myself)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125684&cm_re=Gigabyte_GTX_970-_-14-125-684-_-Product

And the there is the new Extreme version which i think has an impoved Windforce cooler and higher overclocks as well as LED lights in the fans
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125840&cm_re=Gigabyte_GTX_970-_-14-125-840-_-Product

Just a thing you should be aware of these Gigabyte Windforce cards does have a better cooler then the EVGA but they also make more noise.
They are not super loud or anything but you can hear the fans so if you are looking for ultra quiet video cards these are not it.

If you want ultra quiet you are looking at the Asus GTX 970 Strix (this card also has a backplate) the main drawback with the Asus is it runs damm hot
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121899&cm_re=asus_gtx_970_strix-_-14-121-899-_-Product

Now if you want a compromise between noise and cooling there is the MSI GTX 970 Gaming (this card does not have a backplate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127832&cm_re=MSI_GTX_970_gaming-_-14-127-832-_-Product

I have not seen a review of the EVGA cards to compare so i have no idea where those are noise and cooling wise.
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post #8 of 47
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Noise wouldn't really be much of a problem unless it's ridiculous like my antec 1200 case fans were before I got a new case.
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post #9 of 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by mysticstryk View Post

Noise wouldn't really be much of a problem unless it's ridiculous like my antec 1200 case fans were before I got a new case.
The fans on the Gigabyte Windfoce cooler are audible but not loud.
I have 5 Noctua NF-A14 FLX 140mm fans in my case and all of those turned even half way up drown out the video cards.

I say if you dont mind a little noise go with the Windforce cards.
They might not be the cheapest or most quiet cards but they have the best cooler out of all of the cards i have seen reviews of.

You can go with either the normal Windforce card and overclock it yourself or be lazy like i did and buy the G1 which is factory overclocked.

Edit: the G1 is cheaper then the Windforce so there is zero reason to pay more for a slower card.
Get the G1.
Edited by shilka - 2/6/16 at 9:05am
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The R9 390 is the better card. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202164&cm_re=r9_390-_-14-202-164-_-Product
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