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Album with pictures of all the monitors tested.
http://imgur.com/a/jWO59

Test done by: http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/default.asp
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Yep. Never buying another gaming monitor. Need to move to rear-lit. Oh, but rear-lit costs a little more to build and by only charging $800 for a monitor that should be about $300 doesn't allow for enough profit margins. rolleyes.gif And OCN members keep pushing this trash.

It isn't quality control that's the issue. The issue is tv's and monitors that use edge lighting over full array because edge lighting is cheaper, and makes for a thinner display. We need monitors that are full array with localized dimming. IPS glow sucks, but, that's just part of the tech.
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We need monitors that are full array with localized dimming. IPS glow sucks, but, that's just part of the tech.
Localized dimming is useless as it only ruins picture quality without tons of zones with tons of LED's. And implementing it well would accrue a lot to the cost.

Anyway, it's nice to see unbiased reviewers. Asus needs to hurt financially from these things. Not sure this one video will do much for that, but there's always hope.
    
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Localized dimming is useless as it only ruins picture quality without tons of zones with tons of LED's. And implementing it well would accrue a lot to the cost.

Anyway, it's nice to see unbiased reviewers. Asus needs to hurt financially from these things. Not sure this one video will do much for that, but there's always hope.

If this 43" Vizio TV of mine can do 28 zones at a $550 price point, then surely a little 27" 1440p $800 monitor could toss in 56 zones or more and still make a good profit. Gaming monitors are a scam. Asus, Acer, whoever are laughing their way to the bank on them.
     
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then surely a little 27" 1440p $800 monitor could toss in 56 zones or more and still make a good profit
Perhaps. I'm not very sure on the logistics of dimming zones.
    
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If this 43" Vizio TV of mine can do 28 zones at a $550 price point, then surely a little 27" 1440p $800 monitor could toss in 56 zones or more and still make a good profit. Gaming monitors are a scam. Asus, Acer, whoever are laughing their way to the bank on them.

A big part of the reason the tech in TV's is so much cheaper than monitors is the amount of units sold. Your profit margins can be much smaller when you sell a boatload of units. There is no doubt that they are charging an inflated price for "gaming" monitors though, because of that we rightfully expect the quality to be higher.
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Perhaps. I'm not very sure on the logistics of dimming zones.

Maybe, maybe not. Really though 28 zones isn't enough on this 43" tv. However, I can see where the possibilities are there. Just having full array vs edge-lit is a night and day difference. When I put on an all black screen the TV almost looks off. When I enable localized dimming with an all black screen it does look off.

At the price these gaming monitors are, I expect to be wow'ed by such a small display. That just isn't there. I'd pick my XB270HU IPS out as a budget monitor. If I were told it was $800 after seeing it I'd think I was being trolled. That and someone was making off with an extra $500.
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A big part of the reason the tech in TV's is so much cheaper than monitors is the amount of units sold. Your profit margins can be much smaller when you sell a boatload of units. There is no doubt that they are charging an inflated price for "gaming" monitors though, because of that we rightfully expect the quality to be higher.

You are correct about that. Just wish they'd put more effort into PQ.

Those older gaming monitors that were $250, $300 were in the realm of younger kids. The kind of thing you could get for your Birthday or Christmas. These $800 - $1,300 gaming monitors are way past that. They're no longer selling to kids that don't know better. They're selling to adults that expect a quality product when spending that kind of money on a monitor.
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I agree. I could understand having some back light bleed due to the technology used but there is no excuse for variances in the amount of bleed from monitor to monitor. I don't think it is unreasonable for the customer to expect similar performance from screen to screen if they purchased multiple screens. If the amount of bleed was fairly uniform across all the screens being shipped we would know what we are getting when placing the order, this crapshoot is unacceptable.
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I agree. I could understand having some back light bleed due to the technology used but there is no excuse for variances in the amount of bleed from monitor to monitor. I don't think it is unreasonable for the customer to expect similar performance from screen to screen if they purchased multiple screens. If the amount of bleed was fairly uniform across all the screens being shipped we would know what we are getting when placing the order, this crapshoot is unacceptable.

Well, the light bleed is a result of using edge lighting. Full array lighting doesn't suffer from back light bleed. If you do get it then it's likely a defective screen that you need to return.

Back before I knew about screen types, lighting methods, things like that I bought a LG 47" TV. The thing had a beautiful picture, but, I noticed light bleed and a glow in dark scenes that drove me crazy. Returned it for a plasma. Looking back now I know the reason for the issues I had with the TV was it being both Edge-lit, and IPS. Maybe the worse possible combo for a tv/screen. The same combo that goes into all these high end gaming monitors.

I still find it amazing that edge-lit is mentioned as if it were some bonus you should be excited to get when it's such and inferior method of lighting a screen. I'm not a fan of IPS also, but, it does have its place. Edge lighting however should be reserved for only the most budget of screens.
     
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Hiding behind the "its IPS" is wrong because Ive used IPS displays before with almost zero backlight bleed.
This is evidence that Asus (and Acer) have crappy quality control or the display itself is not very good. Which is unheard when you look at the cost of these displays.
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