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post #11 of 145
Lol we couldn't crack that so, let's say we are doing the game creators a favor by cutting them some slack so people see us as good guys
 
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This is awesome.

Bravo to the Denuvo team for making anti-piracy tools that actually work and don't affect the legit customer. And bravo for making it so good they make one of the top cracking groups quit. Hopefully they don't stop updating it though - each new game with Denuvo has improved from the last. If JC3 hasn't been cracked after months - ROTTR will be even harder thumb.gif
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I just stay 2-3 years behind the curve. It requires much less cost and hardware requirements. I'm playing Batman Arkham City right now! thumb.gif

I plan on keeping my sig rig exactly the same for at least another 3 years.
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Here is something for the conspiracy theory lovers:
Maybe 3DM got a good deal to be a part of the developers making Denuvo, and this whole "Denuvo is uncrackable!" is a way to make sure it ends up in every single game.
This way both the developer and the cracking team gets a good amount of money, the cracking team this way also goes low and so no one is going to go after them anymore, and everyone are happy.
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post #15 of 145
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Originally Posted by Defoler View Post

Here is something for the conspiracy theory lovers:
Maybe 3DM got a good deal to be a part of the developers making Denuvo, and this whole "Denuvo is uncrackable!" is a way to make sure it ends up in every single game.
This way both the developer and the cracking team gets a good amount of money, the cracking team this way also goes low and so no one is going to go after them anymore, and everyone are happy.
Makes logical sense....they all get to retire and it sends a powerful message to game developers increasing their possible profit margins through the roof.
    
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Originally Posted by end0rphine View Post

So what are they benchmarking the base sales on? Aggregate PC games sales? While controlling for other extraneous variables? I doubt it. Something doesnt add up.
^this

if there is a noticeable increase in AAA game sales it would be an inference at best that no cracks being available is the cause.
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post #17 of 145
Thanks so much for posting this on a forum that panders to copyright law. Very brave of you! biggrin.gifthumb.gif

I've purposefully avoided grinding my gigantic axe on this topic on here because the rules are blatantly pro-copyright, pro-DRM, anti-Internet freedom.
(PLEASE. MAKE. A. CASE. WHY. NOT.)

I'm sorry to say, but that's the reason why I don't like posting here, I'm disgusted by the policies this has about network Sovereignty, and that's why I will never donate a single cent to this website. This policy also direcly cripples the hardware industry, because Internet freedom will encourage hardware sales and uptake. So basically the site has de facto decided to back an old moribund model that harms the tech sector.

I WANT TO LOVE THE SITE BUT YOU MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME. If I wasn't so cynical and angry, that would break my heart a bit.

Ban me if you want, because if you would for this, then this place is worthless anyways. I don't give a darn anymore.

Anyways, it's an interesting experiment, except that we might not see much of an effect because there's bound to be others cracking the releases they might have.
And something tells me this will be ignored by the tone-deaf copyright lobby.
Edited by OverclockerFox - 2/6/16 at 8:06am
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Hopefully this will only encourage other groups to double their efforts and make themselves known. wink.gif
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This is just a reminder. Anyone else admitting to piracy or discussing deleted posts will get an infraction. If your post/s were deleted, please PM myself, or one of the other moderators to ask why they were deleted.
    
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Keep in mind, these are Chinese crackers dismantling copyright protection made by American companies and infringing upon American copyright laws.

This is law that's applied internationally through murky treaties that no one wanted to make, and there's very little incentive for other countries to proactively enforce them. When you're living in poverty, or at least witnessing most of your country living in poverty.. it's probably somewhat conflicting to see wealth earned off the backs of your people poured into copyright law enforcement that lands your people in jail. Meanwhile, it's hard not to recognize the fact that the US is the prime beneficiary of global copyright law enforcement. No other country's economy relies so heavily on perpetually taxing the "invention" of "new" products; the US essentially trades international governance of all things material, but actual material trade is abysmal.

So, yes, it's very reasonable for people in these other countries to protest copyright law. The word "liberty" on her shirt isn't mere decoration, these people are protesting in their own fashion with their own skill set and it's not without good reason.

Copyright and patent law are only two arms of a very unfair global price fixing on trade. As a country who wants to benefit from the copyright and patent system, you've got to somehow prevent all your educated people from leaving for a more prosperous life in a country that has the ability to protect their IP internationally. You've got to try to compete with countries who are able to pressure other countries into enforcing their laws. You can't step on toes without possibly having sanctions placed against you, but certain other countries can break international law without ever fearing such a consequence. Sanctions work to exclude your people from getting the resources, including food and energy, that are needed to keep the population alive. Sanctions often result in death tolls akin to genocide. Depending on severity, sanctions can also result in civil war. The people rarely every know what's happening in all of this, and they rarely pick the right politicians afterwards. This might be why the Chinese were so hesitant to accept Americanization and embrace seemingly benign global trade deals, some 100 years ago.

Ask one of these Chinese crackers how they can chime "liberty" while doing something that seems so clearly wrong; you might start to see things differently.
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