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Who pirates anyways these days and go through all the hassle.

Not defending piracy here but alot of the time it's actualy easier to get the pirated copy running, so much so that for some games people have to buy the game then get a crack for it. Things like second layer drm etc

Press download, then press .exe = done.
Honestly, i haven't played any modern game that caused any issue of the sort. In fact, the last game i played that had issues running was WAY long ago, and it was probably my fault. Anything from Steam or Origin has been, pretty much, download and play. Maybe i've been playing the wrong (right) games.
    
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nope, all DRM does is to piss off legitimate users and encourage them to pirate
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nope, all DRM does is to piss off legitimate users and encourage them to pirate

+1

Nothing like cracking a game you paid for just to make it work how it should. Or to simply play offline for god sake.
    
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3DM crackers are the real deal, but I tend to agree with others. This is just them giving up for now on Denuvo which is also for real. I tend to believe them when they say it may become virtually uncrackable in a year or two.

That said I think there are crackers out there even more skilled then these guys, Fairlight comes to mind, CPY as well.
Edited by Lex Luger - 2/6/16 at 7:04pm
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denuvo did a good job but this "measure" will be pointless because there's one already out(can i post a reddit page?), it has some issues that can be fixed, not going into details but people will be using it anyway..

they can be useful as a demo even with steam refund system available, it just takes some time (steam support is so good lol) and the money goes to the virtual wallet . not very "friendly"
Edited by jmcosta - 2/6/16 at 7:23pm
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I don't know of any pirates that buy games just because there is no crack for them. Most just skip over that game until a

crack comes out later.

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nope, all DRM does is to piss off legitimate users and encourage them to pirate

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+1

Nothing like cracking a game you paid for just to make it work how it should. Or to simply play offline for god sake.
Denuvo does nothing to piss off legitimate users, nor does it require you to be online, limit activation, check up on you, look at your porn history, whatever.

You are thinking of past DRMs. Heck, Denuvo devs don't even call Denuvo a DRM simply because of the stigma of past DRMs, as you two have so excellently proven.
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Denuvo does nothing to piss off legitimate users, nor does it require you to be online, limit activation, check up on you, look at your porn history, whatever.

You are thinking of past DRMs. Heck, Denuvo devs don't even call Denuvo a DRM simply because of the stigma of past DRMs, as you two have so excellently proven.

i never specifically mentioend denuvo. i stopped buying AAA games alot time ago.

none the less DRMs annoy the crap out of me along with anti cheat systems that does nothing but false positives.

my last few game sessions with diablo 3 resulted in it booting me from game and refusing to let me relaunch it unless i rebooted my computer.

happened a few times with dayz as well, these are issues that i wouldnt get with a pirated copy
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icymi, denuvo is NOT a DRM. it inhibits reverse engineering to halt bypassing a DRM:

http://www.denuvo.com/#page-4
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What is the Denuvo Anti-Tamper solution?

Denuvo Anti-Tamper technology prevents the debugging, reverse engineering and changing of executable files to strengthen the security of games. It is not a DRM solution, but rather, Denuvo Anti-tamper protects DRM solutions, such as Origin Online Access or the Steam license management system, from being circumvented.

How does it work?

The license management from Steam or Origin grants legitimate consumers access to the game and our Anti-Tamper solution ensures that these DRM systems are not bypassed.

Do you have any negative impact on the game or customer experience?

No, since only performance non-critical game functions are used in the Anti-Tamper process, Anti-Tamper has no perceptible effect on game performance nor is Anti-Tamper to blame for any game crashes of genuine executables.

What is the difference between DRM and Anti-Tamper?

A Digital Rights Management (DRM) system binds the game to a legitimate user account and allows the game to be played whenever and wherever the consumer wants to download and execute the game.
Anti-Tamper stops the reverse engineering and debugging of the DRM solution, but has no effect or limitation on the legitimate consumer. Anti-Tamper is completely transparent to legitimate game buyers and does not in any way impose activation limits, install drivers, or require a gamer to be "always on."

Does Denuvo Anti-Tamper constantly encrypt and decrypt data on storage media?

No, Denuvo Anti-Tamper does not continuously encrypt and decrypt any data on storage media. To do so would be of no benefit in terms of security or performance.

Does Denuvo Anti-Tamper affect my SSD or any other type of hard drives in any way?

No. As mentioned before, Denuvo Anti-Tamper does not constantly read or write any data to storage media.

Does Denuvo Anti-Tamper leave any files on my computer after I uninstall a game?

Depending on the game, one Denuvo-related file may be left on your computer after you uninstall the game. However, this file is inert and you can either manually delete it or leave it on your system without it affecting your PC in any way.
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i never specifically mentioend denuvo. i stopped buying AAA games alot time ago.

none the less DRMs annoy the crap out of me along with anti cheat systems that does nothing but false positives.

my last few game sessions with diablo 3 resulted in it booting me from game and refusing to let me relaunch it unless i rebooted my computer.

happened a few times with dayz as well, these are issues that i wouldnt get with a pirated copy
Both games you mention are online games.. you wouldn't be able to play at all with a pirated copy because you can't play online with it.

You seem to have the wrong idea of what DRM actually is.

As for the issues you mentioned, sounds like it's your PC or internet. I've never encountered the issue you mentioned in my 1k+ hours of D3.
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