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3) RAM DDR3 4 GB - $22

4) Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - $41 (approx)

Are you planning to get new memory and mix it with your existing memory? If so, be sure to get stuff that witll work with one another, ideally sticks of the exact same sku. Voltages and various timings and clock speeds are different for different sticks, but the motherboard can only use one set of settings for all dimms.

Here's a a couple other good budget coolers, the 212 evo is an oldie and a goodie, but there are others too that maybe you can more easily find at a better price. I think the cryorig and be quiet have an edge in performance/silence respectively. They'er newer designs and i think they look good too. These are about $35 in the us.

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Thanks.

I will try to ensure that memory types remain the same. On the CPU cooler front very limited options are available here plus I do not want to spend much. smile.gif
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In last to last post I mentioned :

> SSD - Samsung 850 Evo 250 GB - $102 and Crucial BX100 250GB SATA 2.5 Inch Internal Solid State Drive is around $83.
One guy wrote a review for Crucial BX 100 as "It turns out that this drive has the fastest read speed of the six drives I tested (excluding the Samsung 840 EVO when the Samsung Magician software is running). However, it has the slowest write speed of the six drives I tested"

So either SSD is fine or should I still stick to crucial.
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The way I see it you have a couple on weak places in your current system that can use a boost and I'll explain it as best I can in order of importance.

1. RAM- You should be running a minimum of 8Gb of matching sticks for dual channel so 2x4Gb or even 2x8Gb 1600Mhz kit since DDR3 prices are so low right now. Do not mix-match the DIMMs using the existing RAM you have. Operations on your PC will be faster utilizing the dual channel memory controller of your CPU.

2. SSD- I would suggest 120Gb minimum for just the OS and programs not including games. Games would be installed on a mechanical drive still. This will increase OS and programs load times.

This is where it gets a little grey due to lack of specifics because in the original post you have an i5 2500 which is not able to overclock but yet people are suggesting a cooler because they assume it's a K version that can. So if it is not a K CPU then the CPU cooler should be at the bottom as such.

Also you didn't specify which Coolermaster 600w power Supply you have and they make a lot of subpar units so the exact model is needed to suggest anything beyond my first two recommendations but I will for both scenarios for the PSU.

3. Power Supply- If the unit you have is not a good one from Coolermaster than this will be a must before anyone should recommend a GPU upgrade. If the one you have is decent then we simply remove it from the list and move on to #4 on it. This will ensure clean power is being delivered to your expensive components and should never be skimped on. A good 450w to 600w will do for your system.

4. GPU- I going to assume this is for a 1080p monitor so R9 380 performance would be my minimum. From the Nvidia side the 380 is in between the 960 and 970 so you can pay the same or a bit more for less performance with a 960 because it's your choice.

5. CPU Cooler- Even if you don't have a K version i5 it would still be beneficial to have a better cooler than the stock one. It will keep the CPU cooler and eliminate possible throttling issues you may have when the CPU is being stressed. If you do have a K version then it will allow you to push performance further from overclocking.
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post #45 of 81
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In last to last post I mentioned :

> SSD - Samsung 850 Evo 250 GB - $102 and Crucial BX100 250GB SATA 2.5 Inch Internal Solid State Drive is around $83.
One guy wrote a review for Crucial BX 100 as "It turns out that this drive has the fastest read speed of the six drives I tested (excluding the Samsung 840 EVO when the Samsung Magician software is running). However, it has the slowest write speed of the six drives I tested"

So either SSD is fine or should I still stick to crucial.

You're not going to notice any difference in speed between any of them in real-world usage. Benchmarks of the differences between drives is nothing when you compare them to HDDs...

Get which one you like the brand name the best, or which has the prettiest sticker. It really won't matter.
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SSD + R9 380X

380X beats the suggested 960 by a lot.
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post #47 of 81
380x > 380 > 960
post #48 of 81
Get an R9 390 or GTX970 and if you have enough an SSD. A decent Hard Drive is still plenty fast enough and an SSD won't be anywhere even close to being as noticeable as getting one of those GPUs in gaming.
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post #49 of 81
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Originally Posted by cmac68 View Post

The way I see it you have a couple on weak places in your current system that can use a boost and I'll explain it as best I can in order of importance.

1. RAM- You should be running a minimum of 8Gb of matching sticks for dual channel so 2x4Gb or even 2x8Gb 1600Mhz kit since DDR3 prices are so low right now. Do not mix-match the DIMMs using the existing RAM you have. Operations on your PC will be faster utilizing the dual channel memory controller of your CPU.

2. SSD- I would suggest 120Gb minimum for just the OS and programs not including games. Games would be installed on a mechanical drive still. This will increase OS and programs load times.

This is where it gets a little grey due to lack of specifics because in the original post you have an i5 2500 which is not able to overclock but yet people are suggesting a cooler because they assume it's a K version that can. So if it is not a K CPU then the CPU cooler should be at the bottom as such.

Also you didn't specify which Coolermaster 600w power Supply you have and they make a lot of subpar units so the exact model is needed to suggest anything beyond my first two recommendations but I will for both scenarios for the PSU.

3. Power Supply- If the unit you have is not a good one from Coolermaster than this will be a must before anyone should recommend a GPU upgrade. If the one you have is decent then we simply remove it from the list and move on to #4 on it. This will ensure clean power is being delivered to your expensive components and should never be skimped on. A good 450w to 600w will do for your system.

4. GPU- I going to assume this is for a 1080p monitor so R9 380 performance would be my minimum. From the Nvidia side the 380 is in between the 960 and 970 so you can pay the same or a bit more for less performance with a 960 because it's your choice.

5. CPU Cooler- Even if you don't have a K version i5 it would still be beneficial to have a better cooler than the stock one. It will keep the CPU cooler and eliminate possible throttling issues you may have when the CPU is being stressed. If you do have a K version then it will allow you to push performance further from overclocking.


Oh, oooops, I definitely was assuming 2500K! I'm not sure BCLK overclocking is viable option with SB like it was with Lynnfield? I don't think it is. I really hope the OP has an unlocked K chip. I think since he had the mobo for overclocking, i assuimed he had the cpu for it too.
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post #50 of 81
Something you might find interesting.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1591982/digitalfoundry-is-it-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k#post_24915595
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