Originally Posted by jjpjimmy
Here's my very own curveball interpretation.
Acceleration actually allows for more Easier precision than without, however it isn't for accurate movement.
All this boasting about 1:1 having more precision is stupid to be honest. 1:1 is about accuracy not precision. What is the second thing typical gamers do after turning off accel? Lowering sensitivity. Why? Because it's too difficult at higher sensitivities to move a 'pixel' amount. Lowering sens is for easier precision. And how low one can go --without accel-- is limited by their deskspace. Probably somewhere along the lines of 1 Pixel for every .063" mouse movement. Ultimately this isn't even close to what is possible with accel. 1 Pixel for every 1" of mouse movement? Heck if you want something like that without accel, you're looking at like 1080in/360. Regardless, it's EASIER to be precise with a lower sensitivity. Only mouse accel allows for a practical application of such low sensitivity.
As for what has MORE/LESS precision, that would be an argument for DPI/Mouse hardware. Technically the name "Enhance pointer precision" is correct. It doesn't say "enhance pointer accuracy"...
There was an article here on this forums... I believe it was a setup guide for CS:S and it had a very thorough explanation between precision and accuracy.
Originally Posted by jjpjimmy
Acceleration makes precise cursor movement easier. It makes accuracy more difficult.
You guys are seriously lacking some keywords here and there. Acceleration, or the lack of, doesn't increase/decrease precision of the pointer tool by any bit. It simply makes it more EASIER or less EASIER.
Additionally make the distinction between accuracy and precision... they aren't the same thing. (No time to explain)
But this is fact, Acceleration does make it easier to move the cursor precisely (without resorting to incredibly low sensitivities and large mouse pads).
Your differentiation of accuracy and precision is wrong (no time to explain) and the semantic argument you are trying to make both for this and the "easier to be precise" thing is unnecessary. For your "it makes precision easier" argument. First: Nah. That's the nonsense "trism" wants us to believe this argument was about, when it's obvious that "ronnin426850" literally meant acceleration itself is precise - "more precise" even.
Acceleration makes moving larger distances "easier" as in convenient as in requiring less physical movement. Lower sensitivity is what makes precision "easier"; acceleration actually decreases precision for faster movements. And if your sensitivity is already low enough for you to be able to move 1 pixel at a time, you are at maximum precision and nothing will grant you more.
The idea that "it doesn't increase precision, it makes precision easier" is just backwards linguistic logic rather than making a meaningful distinction. As trism rightfully says, with lower sensitivity you decrease the amount of imprecision your hand introduces to the system. But decreasing the amount of imprecision one variable has on the system makes the system: more precise. Just because that variable happens to be my hand doesn't mean "it is easier to be precise" and "it is more precise" are not synonymous for all intents and purposes.
Acceleration actually allows for more Easier precision than without
No. It allows to more conveniently (albeit imprecisely) travel larger distances on your screen.
Only mouse accel allows for a practical application of such low sensitivity.
No. If you aren't an alcoholic chances are at 400-800cpi you have no problem moving your cursor by a single pixel, i. e. achieving maximum precision. At these sensitvities nobody absolutely needs acceleration to cover larger areas. Same goes for in-game sensitivity.
Are you telling me you use less than 400cpi?
1 Pixel for every 1" of mouse movement? Heck if you want something like that without accel, you're looking at like 1080in/360.
Why would you want something like that? You realize that you need a mouse with 1cpi for that, right? Again: Thresholds. Just because I can decrease my sensitivity by a million times doesn't mean I necessarily get more precision. In 2D I absolutely don't get more precise, in 3D I effectively don't.
Originally Posted by trism
6/11 EPP on at slow speed is literally dropping counts e.g. the same as dropping below 6/11.
Source? That would actually be bad as now your cursor stops being accurate to your mouse movement. And it would also, again, not increase precision if you are already able to move one pixel at a time without it.Edited by HAGGARD - 2/9/16 at 5:29am