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You won't be able to find a "review" anywhere, for anything, that actually says what was reviewed was junk. Reviewers just don't do that. You want to look at test results and compare those. It's a lot more work, but will filter out the junk.

I guess I'm spoiled but a Swedish site called sweclockers do "honest" reviews and have a huge impact here in Sweden. If something is straight out bad, well then they say so.

When you said this I immediately started thinking about 3dgameman and his 100% kick ass products (which 100% of all reviews got)

But all those graphs, are they just manufactured? Do they really do that?
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For next time:
You won't be able to find a "review" anywhere, for anything, that actually says what was reviewed was junk. Reviewers just don't do that. You want to look at test results and compare those. It's a lot more work, but will filter out the junk.

Not true. I written reviews and basically stated that the component had no redeeming qualities. I got a call from the site owner simply asking "is it really that bad?". If I said yes, he published as is. If I hedged, he asked me to at least express the points that made me hedge. Only thing I liked about writing for that site was the fact that they didn't kiss manufacturers' rings. We called it as we saw it.
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I wrote a question on the site asking if it would fit the 1151 socket. I assumed it would since I used that on my Phanteks and after reading these two...

https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product/phobya-pure-performance-kit-360lt-cpu-water-coolers-2452776
https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/97158-will-lga1150-cpu-coolers-be-compatible-with-upcoming-skylake-socket-lga1151

But the reply I got from the administrator on their site said "no it is not for the 1151". So do I have to call Germany tomorrow and tell them not to send the package or will it fit despite what he said?

EDIT: Googled some more and found numerous other sites that said that most coolers that fits 1150 will fit the 1151. The one I'm going for is the swiss site selling the same kit where it says that it will fit the 1151...
Edited by Bogga - 2/8/16 at 3:35pm
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Before I got answers from you all I decided to check reviews and all reviews I could find said it wasn't the best out there but still an ok kit.

For next time:
You won't be able to find a "review" anywhere, for anything, that actually says what was reviewed was junk. Reviewers just don't do that. You want to look at test results and compare those. It's a lot more work, but will filter out the junk.
You won't be able to find many "reviews" a "review" anywhere, for anything, that actually says what was reviewed was junk. Reviewers just don't do that very often. You want to look at test results and compare those. It's a lot more work, but will filter out the junk.

Better?.................
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Generally speaking, unless a product is just that bad (usually if that's the case, the manufacturer wouldn't even ship out review units or will send out cherry picked ones), reviewers tend to try to be at least a bit diplomatic with their criticism to avoid pissing off the manufacturer and get blacklisted. It is shady on the side of the manufacturers when it does happen, but hey, it's ultimately the manufacturer's call of who gets review units. A good example of this would be AMD and the Nano which ended up getting a fair amount of backlash.
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While what billbartuska is not completely wrong, what @ciarlatano said is more accurate.

OC'ing Noob says it best
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reviewers tend to try to be at least a bit diplomatic with their criticism to avoid pissing off the manufacturer and get blacklisted

@ciarlatano & I would have a hard time getting test samples from one popular CLC seller. tongue.gif

When reading reviews wording like "this product is good for most ..." means it's just acceptable. Wording like 'it performs well' means performance was acceptable, but not at all great.
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Sorry - didn't mean to lend a hand in derailing the thread. I have actually been following it since I have been one of those who "Fear It" when they see Phobya and was hoping to get a little insight from those that have actually used their products. I freely admit that my Phobya phobia has no first hand experience behind it, and is completely based on word of mouth, and something always seeming a bit off about their products when I see them.
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Lucky like *insert curse word of your choice*! When thinking about how to set up the loop it hit me that I might need extension for the 90 degree fitting on the rad. So I just took a chance and bought something that in my mind seemed to be the logical solution... boy was I lucky!

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Encountered more problems than I anticipated... I thought I was being thorough but boy was I wrong. Don't know what I would've done if I wouldn't have bought all those extra fittings. I knew the reservoir was big and the same with the radiator. But I knew that in a worst case scenario I could remove the hdd-bays in the bottom. I realised immediately that I would have to do that and also that I had to set the pump next to the reservoir instead of beneath it. But I've tried to remin calm and think things through and come up with this solution, and this is where I'd appreciate if you guys could tell me if I'm doing things right? biggrin.gif

This is how I set up the pump/reservoir



The hose from the pump up to the cpu will go through the cable management hole to the left.

My plans for this is: Switch the 45 fitting on the rad to a straight one which will go down to the reservoir. A 45 on the cpu which will "receive" water from the pump and finally a 90 on the cpu that will push water to the 90 fitting on the rad. The water flow is very nicely drawn by me in paint! So am I doing this right or are my plans totally worthless?

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Encountered more problems than I anticipated... I thought I was being thorough but boy was I wrong. Don't know what I would've done if I wouldn't have bought all those extra fittings. I knew the reservoir was big and the same with the radiator. But I knew that in a worst case scenario I could remove the hdd-bays in the bottom. I realised immediately that I would have to do that and also that I had to set the pump next to the reservoir instead of beneath it. But I've tried to remin calm and think things through and come up with this solution, and this is where I'd appreciate if you guys could tell me if I'm doing things right? biggrin.gif

This is how I set up the pump/reservoir



The hose from the pump up to the cpu will go through the cable management hole to the left.

My plans for this is: Switch the 45 fitting on the rad to a straight one which will go down to the reservoir. A 45 on the cpu which will "receive" water from the pump and finally a 90 on the cpu that will push water to the 90 fitting on the rad. The water flow is very nicely drawn by me in paint! So am I doing this right or are my plans totally worthless?


Looks fine, however I wouldn't use the pump like that. A 90 degree fitting right before the pump inlet like that is about the worst place you can have a 90 and should be avoided if at all possible. If you can connect the pump to the reservoir with a straight coupler that is best. However if you cant well the you cant and carry on, but if you can make it work with a straight that is advisable.
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