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As noted above by another poster, ambient temps are a big factor for air coolers. If you have a relatively cool room all year round, its not a factor but water cooling pulls ahead in hot rooms.

This doesn't follow as the water isn't being chilled (unless, of course, you're doing just that). If ambient is higher, then everything is higher. That includes air going into an air cooler as well as both air going into a liquid cooler radiator and the liquid itself. The underlying physics aren't changing and going to reverse the performance rankings just like that.
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Correct diagnosis, but questionable solution. If I read your post correctly you added 2 more case fans plus a radiator adding heat inside the case. You did what so many do. You blame the air cooler for poor case air flow instead of fixing the case air flow. What's the cost of case fans VS that clc you bought?
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I'll just add a note that according to specification a CPU socket is rated for up to 350 gram cooler wink.gif

While normally not a problem it can be if one is moving the case around. I have lost a motherboard to a Thermaltake Frio in a semi mobile system few years ago.
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why you should not buy a big bulky heatsink:

1. it will obstruct everything and will cut your fingers.

2. it prevents you from accessing your ram slots.

3. it will cover your fancy motherboard leds.

4. it may damage your motherboard due to it's weight.

5. you have to remove it when transporting.

6. can't pull fresh air directly from outside, can't exhaust hot air directly to outside.

7. ugly

8. it might come in contact with the gpu pcb and short it, as seen on this pic






why you should buy clc:

PERFECTION!
20160204_161608-1.jpg
Edited by ghostrider85 - 2/7/16 at 9:53pm
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Originally Posted by Poisoner View Post

Meh. CLC are good for a variety of reasons, including ease of installation. I don't understand why you big air guys have such a chip on your shoulders over nothing.

Edit: I see you put this in air cooling, which misses your target audience. Come post this is water cooling if you want a real discussion.
Sorry to say, no one has chip on shoulder. Just experience cooling.
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A 980 ti pumps out a lot of heat when running high res uncapped. The system was chocking on the heat out put. I used the stock fans that came with the case, adding a 2nd front intake since it only came with one.

I setup my old H100i as a front intake. I put two top, and one rear exhaust and it works well again. The CPU stays cool from taking in fresh air from the front, and the 3 fans set up as exhaust removes the heat of the GPU well.
You added a 2nd 140mm front fan and no top exhaust.
Did you remove both HDD cage from the R5?
As that will block most of the intake.

So you say your GPU temps are lower with the H100i in front 2x120mm, instead of just 2x 140mm fans?
Those numbers do not add up.

You can even put the H100 on top, as you have more than enough clearance.
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why you should not buy a big bulky heatsink:

1. it will obstruct everything and will cut your fingers.
2. it prevents you from accessing your ram slots.
3. it will cover your fancy motherboard leds.
4. it may damage your motherboard due to it's weight.
5. you have to remove it when transporting.
6. can't pull fresh air directly from outside, can't exhaust hot air directly to outside.
7. ugly
1. Not always and not true
2. Not all, but some are designed to not block ram
3. That is personal taste if you got LED
4. Never heard that it will do that nor seen it happen.
5. Not hard to do to remove it, and many do move it always.
6. You can with some coolers and cases and you can directly exhaust
7. Not all, there is some good looking coolers.
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Sorry to say, no one has chip on shoulder. Just experience cooling.

So if I made a thread about why you should only build a custom loop that would be received with high praise?
post #17 of 474
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Originally Posted by ghostrider85 View Post

why you should not buy a big bulky heatsink:

1. it will obstruct everything and will cut your fingers.

2. it prevents you from accessing your ram slots.

3. it will cover your fancy motherboard leds.

4. it may damage your motherboard due to it's weight.

5. you have to remove it when transporting.

6. can't pull fresh air directly from outside, can't exhaust hot air directly to outside.

7. ugly

8. it might come in contact with the gpu pcb and short it, as seen on this pic






why you should buy clc:

PERFECTION!
20160204_161608-1.jpg

For the amount you spent on those 3 derpy CLCs, you could have built a custom loop that would look better, perform better, last longer, etc.

"Perfection" is probably the last thing I'd call those ugly tubes running haphazardly across your GPUs, or the woefully inefficient cooling and noise levels you are getting from that setup.

I'm not against CLCs, but I do understand that their practical application is much more niche than people seem to think. I've used CLCs in systems where small size, some flexibility in mounting, and lack of required maintenance were the most important factors, and under those conditions they do well. In just about any other scenario however, they are a very poor choice.
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So if I made a thread about why you should only build a custom loop that would be received with high praise?
I also build custom loops. Just with all the RMA I have done for CLC over the years and issues. Just was wasted time for majority little gains.
    
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I also build custom loops. Just with all the RMA I have done for CLC over the years and issues. Just was wasted time for majority little gains.

I've had good luck with the CLCs I had in the past. The pump on my H60 went out once, Corsair sent me a brand new one in its place. In fact that H60 took an i5 750 just a few mhz shy of a 2ghz overclock...
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For the amount you spent on those 3 derpy CLCs, you could have built a custom loop that would look better, perform better, last longer, etc.

"Perfection" is probably the last thing I'd call that.

and then i have to mess with it every month to keep it maintained? nevermind the initial hassle of building a custom loop.
my 980 ti 1500mhz tops out @ 52C, do i need better cooling? absolutely not.
my 6600k 4.6ghz tops out @ 67C, do i need better cooling? absolutely not.

so, why do i need to waste my time building a custom loop then? absolutely nothing.
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