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Originally Posted by Chargeit View Post

Bro, but, this shows otherwise...




Though, I understand situation affects everything, so...




http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7277/corsair-hydro-h100i-gtx-high-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler-review/index7.html

Tweaktown reviews when it comes to cpu cooling they give some of the worst benchmarks. It's known to be very unreliable.

We have no idea what RPM the fans are running at. Tweaktown I think is the only review that has those kind of benchmarks

Either way you should really compare this chart as well.

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The one metric every CLC lover loves to deny...
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Yea. I understand the chart. On performance, the H100i GTX won... But, at quiet, the D15 won. See, I'm willing to point out and accept pros and cons.
     
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I leave mine on quiet. Which gets better temps then that D-15 did.
You'll notice that your tweaktown results show otherwise (24db for 4*)... though I suppose it's worth noting that they're using an open chassis rolleyes.gif

(Probably worth noting, again, that HTL uses a popular chassis in stock configuration, which is a little more "real world" than an open chassis)

Which brings us back to...
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So pay more for a CLC than a good air cooler, then spend more money to get better fans that will still be louder cooling the same wattage than a good air cooler will .
Air hydo-science, but not a boat . tongue.gif
Sorry, but it's not getting better temps than D15 did. Your system is getting better temps with CLC than with D15. This is because your is not setup properly for air cooling. No idea exactly why, but when running the D15 I'll bet diamonds to donuts that the D15 intake air temp was significantly higher than room ambient.

We really don't care who uses CLC. All we are saying is CLC are definitely not 'better' than air, are 'louder' than air, 'cost more' than air, and will not lst as long as an air cooler. If you wnat water get a water cooling kit and do it right instead of buying over-priced wannabee water CLC.
Worth noting that HTL's test are based on dB, i.e. measuring best performance at measured volume:
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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

Interesting....here is what I got in a temp controlled room using a straight out of the box Enthoo Luxe with a GTX 980:


Sounds to me like you had some other type of issue going on.
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cooling/liquid/44066-corsair-h110i-gt-and-h100i-gtx-clc-liquid-cooler-review
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I'm not on any particular side of this fight.
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ClC is pretty much plug and play. Air requires tons of back and forth testing that I'm no longer willing to do for the ideal conditions. I don't have to test out 20 different fan orientations to catch good temps. That works for me.

Air vs clc is roughly the same in terms of level of effort to setup. I'd say air might be a bit easier if anything.
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Like I said pages back, clc is for lazy people. I can't think of a single case I wouldn't mod to get less noise and better air flow.

What if noise is not what your trying to optimize for. I think clcs can do pretty well in sff cases, the kind of cases that can't house a big air cooler. A clc can give you decent performance despite the tight space, air has a hard time getting past "go" in this type of situation and noise is a secondary consideration.
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we already brought this up several times size is the only advantage it has- but why not go aio if that is the case ?

or full water !~
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we already brought this up several times size is the only advantage it has- but why not go aio if that is the case ?

or full water !~

custom loop is daunting (at least it is to me) and quality aio is not so mainstream, if i had a friend with a prodigy or one of the sff silverstone cases, i wouldn't hesitate to suggest an asetek to get the job done
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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

i could never recommend a patent troll asecrap for anything

i can appreciate that, i also appreciate that asetek really has done some innovating and moved the ball forward, i just wish they wouldn't be such (expletive)s about it.
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Great post, CLCs belong in the pits of hell! smile.gif

Seriously though, if you want to watercool then watercool, AIOs are not watercooling (The EK and Swiftechs aside).
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