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I have no will to live.
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Im all for reduced tdp while maintaining cpu performance and more cores
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Just force intel to give Samsung a x86 licence already! Tired of this monopoly from Intel.
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Why don't they just come out and admit that they don't want to spend money on R&D to make chips faster AND use less power.
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Originally Posted by azanimefan View Post

Intel's goal since the disastrous Bulldozer release has been this ~ heck i wrote about it back in 2012 ~ what they want is to take today's desktop cpu and put it into every mobile device in the planet. In short they want today's performance paired with SOC ARM power draw and size. This has been the windmill they've been tilting at every generation of chip. NOT more performance, but MORE performance/watt.

This isn't new news. It's just no one paid attention. I've been saying for 5 years now, intel isn't competing against AMD, they're competing against ARM. My conclusion 5 years ago is the same as my current one, which is "at some point desktop performance will stop improving" thanks in no small part due to lack of competition. If Zen doesn't compete/resurrect AMD, then expect Skylake to be the pinnacle of Intel desktop performance.

The writing has been on the wall for years, even AMD are working hard on reducing power consumption but some have been willfully oblivious to it.

 

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Originally Posted by aweir View Post

Why don't they just come out and admit that they don't want to spend money on R&D to make chips faster AND use less power.

Even ARM are struggling with this, if they weren't we wouldn't have the major phone manufacturers turning to water cooling to cool those overheating 840's.

 

A total shift in computing is required now, we are hitting the wall with traditional silicon.

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I like the fact that my desktop acts as a heater, I don't want lower power cpu, I want more cpu sockets to space out where the heat is produced so I gain lots more power, im no where near satisfied with how powerful my system is but I am ok with 150w cpu draw. we got this problem in the eu when it became illegal to use candescent light and people are now using led and such lighting, now everybody need more heating so it is a waste of time as their is no real tangible energy saving in a cold climate.

sure I can see this type of thing being helpful for say a mobile phone but it would be best as an alternative line rather than a replacement for the standard thinking of ever increasing performance.
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This displeases me greatly.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azanimefan View Post

Intel's goal since the disastrous Bulldozer release has been this ~ heck i wrote about it back in 2012 ~ what they want is to take today's desktop cpu and put it into every mobile device in the planet. In short they want today's performance paired with SOC ARM power draw and size. This has been the windmill they've been tilting at every generation of chip. NOT more performance, but MORE performance/watt.

This isn't new news. It's just no one paid attention. I've been saying for 5 years now, intel isn't competing against AMD, they're competing against ARM. My conclusion 5 years ago is the same as my current one, which is "at some point desktop performance will stop improving" thanks in no small part due to lack of competition. If Zen doesn't compete/resurrect AMD, then expect Skylake to be the pinnacle of Intel desktop performance.

There are some other ways to be faster. If you would indulge an unsavory source: http://wccftech.com/massive-intel-xeon-e5-xeon-e7-skylake-purley-biggest-advancement-nehalem/
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I don't buy it.

Google says they are on the verge of quantum computing, but we get garbage like this from Intel?

Hey Intel, talk to the Military Industrial Complex, they are at least 400 years ahead of the consumer market, and ask them for a hand out.
 
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