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I think that IoT will really take off once they get a fully functional voice activated household assistant program to handle functions. Needing an app to handle every different item in your home is a huge hassle, but being able to speak to an AI that can handle things would make it actually viable.

I always hear this and they have been saying the 'Internet of Things' revolution will take off for years now. The technology has been there to do it for a fair while now but the thing that will always kill it is the lack of standardization and the greed of too many competing companies. Apple, Google, Amazon, Sony, MS, Facebook and every other major social tech company wants to wall off an IoT ecosystem exclusively with their products and until they all agree to work together (which is never) we won't get the all-encompassing, seamless connected future envisioned all those years ago.

I think the future will be a little different. It's like the now outdated idea of 'the battle for the living room' where the goal was to control the living room to allow unfettered engagement with consumers. It turns out people are spending less and less time in the living room and we like using several separate devices to connect to media. The battle was futile in the end and the future imagined off the mark.

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"Cortana, brew me a cup of coffee please"

I too am looking forward to this happening. Right now the industry is very segmented though, so your coffee pot and your dryer are not speaking the same language. I hate to think that we need intervention and standardization, but I dont foresee Samsung and LG getting on the same API without it.

Yep very true.
post #72 of 161
Everyone should remember: Intel is rebuilding itself on three pillars—and the PC isn't one of them

This latest statement is simply confirming that Intel doesn't have an interest in the desktop market anymore, but they'll continue to milk it for what they can with as little investment as possible. Of course, that should have been obvious for awhile.
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Face it, large unit desktop PC is a dying segment. It has to.

Smartphones, Google Glass, Oculus Rift. The end goal is to merge with technology through implants or cellular implants. It's the way it's going to be, and you can only achieve this if you focus on small sized mobile technology.

They're still focusing on performance/mm or perf/watt. They can always scale up.

what exactly is going to drive the occulus rift?

iirc it's just a display, not unlike a monitor.
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I have a hard time believing that they would introduce chips that would perform worse than ones they introduced in previous generation just to save on power. Everywhere from the desktop to the cellphone the demands on the CPU are getting increasingly more intensive. Games, app, programs are getting more and more demanding. Would vendors really want to push out a laptop that performs 10-30% worse than last year just to give it an extra 10-30% of battery life? I hope not.
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When I no longer have a need for my sport car then ill stop needing higher speed CPU until then they better still make them faster
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I have a 2500K (OC'd) and wish to upgrade. I am actually getting bottlenecked by my CPU in quite some games. (Also AMD CPU overhead).

I think 4/8 or 6/12 cores is the way to good with a healthy overclock and good RAM. More and more it seems like HT and good RAM is important. In some games I just can't get rock solid 60fps anymore.

While the 2500K is a great CPU and probably one of the most legendary CPUs in terms of price/performance and lengths of use I still feel like a need a new one.

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Consumer CPUs are more than fast enough to feed the system the processing power it needs.

Source? There's so much more that we could do with a CPU that was 2 to 10 times faster, let alone more. People have been saying that for decades.
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i wouldn't mind it if LGA1155 and Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge is relevant for another 10 years.
If recent trends are anything to go by this might just happen....less reason for me to upgrade = happy wallet = happy life.
     
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Think about all the use someone got out of a pc built in early 2012 with an i5-2500k and HD 7970

haha I actually built my PC in march/april 2012 with i5 2500k and GTX 680.

I got great value out of it, but I wish I had taken faster ram and a i7 2600K instead.
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I can understand if they reduce clockspeeds. That isn't new, they did it for the Core 2 Duo line-up in 2006 when compared to the Pentium 4 / D line. The much improved architecture more than made up for the lower clockspeeds.

On the other hand, what I, and I guess nobody else would understand is if there are actual performance regressions. Nobody would buy a chip that performs worse than the previous one.

mobile chips, that would not only make the laptops cooler and lighter, it'll also boost battery life during high workloads.
e.g. they could make a full 4core chip thats about half the performance of a mobile i7, yet only consumes 10watts or so, said 10watt CPU could be used on a tablet device.
Edited by epic1337 - 2/9/16 at 2:05pm
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