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2 considerations:
- If you plan to add another 980ti to that setup, you will be heavily bottlenecked by that 4690k, to the point you might prefer to disable SLI. An i5 has been good enough until now, but today it's being beaten by an i7 in many games even with a single gpu. An 980ti is not any joke of a gpu, let alone an SLI of them where the performance is around the level of a 1080ti. Such high amounts of gpu performance require something better than an i5 to be run properly and without issues.

- About the future case, the UMX3 allows up to mATX form factor. Multigpu is possible but not recommendable as the top gpu doesn't have space to breathe. But multigpu setup with MK-26 is not an option for a mATX. Dual slot gpus are about 40mm width, but the MK-26 is already 45.6mm by itself and you also need to count fan, die and pcb width. You will have to go for full ATX if you plan to keep such custom coolers with mgpu.

With these in mind, I see you would get a better result with an entire new setup (cpu+mobo+ddr4+UMX4+2nd 980ti) rather that buying stuff on the go and regretting later. You are already planning to buy few parts, so go big or stay home because going little in your case will be a waste of money and time.

Btw, Jonsbo also released the U4 which is a full ATX case with a volume of just 30l: http://www.cooltek.de/en/jonsbo/u-series/232/u4?c=269

I agree with this.

Also, he said 1080ti SLI, not 980ti SLI. thumb.gif Your point is therefore even more valid. 1080ti will likely be heavily held back by a 4670K unless at 4k 60 FPS, which would be a waste anyway as a single 1080ti can hit 4k/60FPS.

@0cChase That setup doesn't make a lot of sense. You're trying to cram an enormous amount of disproportionate hardware into a tiny case.
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about the first part, 4690k is still a great cpu for gaming and the improvements over a twice as expensive cpu are with diminishing returns. Get your facts straight, because you`re talking nonsense.
Especially when playing in 4k. And btw, i`m planning a 1080 ti sli, not a 980 ti, because the end goal is buying two more Samsung UE43ks7500 for 3x4k (mostly for simracing)

about the 2nd part, i understand that you haven`t read my post. I`m talking about modding the case and extending the pcie with a riser. I`m not an idiot, i know ho thick the cards are, i`m only asking if there is physical space for two cards with big radiators in the case.
I`m kind of expecting an answer from someone who has tried putting two gpus in the UMX3 and perhaps a picture of it, so i could imagine if by further modding it i could somehow fit two mk-26 and some slim fans in there. I don`t need the bottom cages, as i`ll only use ssds.

thank you for the link, i`ve seen the U4 but it seems to be inferior to the umx series.
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Originally Posted by 0cChase View Post

about the first part, 4690k is still a great cpu for gaming and the improvements over a twice as expensive cpu are with diminishing returns. Get your facts straight, because you`re talking nonsense.
Especially when playing in 4k. And btw, i`m planning a 1080 ti sli, not a 980 ti, because the end goal is buying two more Samsung UE43ks7500 for 3x4k (mostly for simracing)

about the 2nd part, i understand that you haven`t read my post. I`m talking about modding the case and extending the pcie with a riser. I`m not an idiot, i know ho thick the cards are, i`m only asking if there is physical space for two cards with big radiators in the case.
I`m kind of expecting an answer from someone who has tried putting two gpus in the UMX3 and perhaps a picture of it, so i could imagine if by further modding it i could somehow fit two mk-26 and some slim fans in there. I don`t need the bottom cages, as i`ll only use ssds.

thank you for the link, i`ve seen the U4 but it seems to be inferior to the umx series.

We aren't talking nonsense.

A 1080ti SLI has about 3.5 times more raw performance than your single 980ti and about 4.5 more performance than the most powerful gpu existing when the 4690k was launched (780ti). You might think 4k is always about gpu bottleneck, but you fail to see a 1080ti SLI can behave at 4k similarly as a 1060 or 480 do in 1080p.
Such amount of gpu performance is very well capable of throwing framerates of 60-100fps when rendering games at 4k ultra, and in these framerates levels the cpu matters.

That's a fairly high amount of draw calls that you also need to add the extra SLI driver overhead. An i5 has its limits with only 4 threads, and with game engines starting to use full 4 cores at a fairly high % usage, there's little space in an i5 for all the graphic fuss required in such overkill setup.
Edited by Ansau - 3/14/17 at 4:32pm
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People, people, STOP! I wasn`t asking if i need to upgrade my cpu! If i would be asking that, i would have asked in another thread. Also, your theories do not apply in the real world. Do your research before leading people into wasting money, because others might not be so well informed. It`s just a couple of clicks away: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3354061/4690k-overclocked-bottleneck-gtx-1080ti.html
i`m willing to bet that a stock i3 haswell with 1080 ti sli would beat the crap out of that $1.100 cpu with a single 1080 ti. I lose 3-5 frames compared to a 500 euro processor? Ok, i can live with that. With those 500 i`ll buy another 1080 ti in a couple of months. Give it a rest pls. You sound like the "pc advisors" that worked in Metro and MediaMarkt 10 years ago, recomending the top of the line cpu to pair with a mediocre gpu.


I was simply asking for CASE related informations.

update:
1 - can the UMX4 fit a 200mm psu, such as the AX1200i? They say it`s limited to 160 but from what i`ve seen in some pictures, there was plenty of space beneath it.
2 - can the big psu shroud be removed completely? is it fixed with screws, or with bolts?
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1 - can the UMX4 fit a 200mm psu, such as the AX1200i? They say it`s limited to 160 but from what i`ve seen in some pictures, there was plenty of space beneath it.
2 - can the big psu shroud be removed completely? is it fixed with screws, or with bolts?

1- You can if your remove the HDD cage, but if you don't already own am AX1200i, EVGA released their new SuperNOVA 1000 G3, which is one of the best PSU's on the market right now and 1000W should still be more than plenty for 2 1080Ti's and and the processor.

2- All screws, should be removable.

Edit: just remembered that you already have the AX1200i...
post #726 of 877
Hi Jonsbo / Cooltek Owners!!!!

I would like present some photos of my project (work in progres) with a Jonsbo/Cooltek UMX3... I dont want said anything about project, I would like that you see images and take your impressions thumb.gif Starting...



Regards!!!!
post #727 of 877
Hi,
i'm looking at Jonsbo W2, and wondered what size of a radiator in depth you guys have being fitting, in the future i'll be buying a 1080TI card and watercooling it with a 280 in front and bottom, the loop will also include cooling down a CPU, maybe a Ryzen or 7700K of some kind.
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Hi Jonsbo / Cooltek Owners!!!!

I would like present some photos of my project (work in progres) with a Jonsbo/Cooltek UMX3... I dont want said anything about project, I would like that you see images and take your impressions thumb.gif Starting...

Regards!!!!

Sideways GPU mounted on the back of a custom motherboard tray? I love it!
post #729 of 877
Hi daywalk3r314

Happy W2 user here

280mm at front no problem, thickness depends on what you''re doing about the pump/res
the bottom will only take a 240mm rad

I am going to cool my Ti (or equivalent) by adding a second rad to the loop, which is a 60mm Mayhems, my current Black Ice 240GTS will go at the front (30mm) this arrangement will cover the bottom of my motherboard but should be fine providing no pinouts touch the rad smile.gif

I have an XSPC ION combo res/pump this will retain it's current mounting point allbeit maybe closer to the cpu by 30mm although I am considering making modified brackets to mount it directly on the rad
    
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post #730 of 877
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Hi,
i'm looking at Jonsbo W2, and wondered what size of a radiator in depth you guys have being fitting, in the future i'll be buying a 1080TI card and watercooling it with a 280 in front and bottom, the loop will also include cooling down a CPU, maybe a Ryzen or 7700K of some kind.


I'm not sure you'll get 2 280's in there. I've got 2 240's and there isn't much room to spare unless you have some very thin rads. For reference I've got 2 Nemesis GTS Xflows in there.
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