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Yes I am....you missed the whole point completely. By downloading my http page and all the content on it, you downloaded content from me. You got something for free. We both pay our ISPs money, but the difference is, I created content for you to consume. So as a result you consumed something from me for free. Did you pay me anything to watch my video? No, hence its free. I didn't get a single cent of the money you paid your ISP, but I had to pay bandwidth costs for your download.

If you hosted a video on your site, which allows others to view it for free, and if you had NO monetization strategy, that's completely your fault.

At least put it up on YouTube and share in the ad revenue. Why? You save on bandwidth costs, and at least are making money with it.

I personally never host videos on my website (that's a rookie move) They go up on my S3 account.

I have plenty of videos on YouTube which are used for getting top 3 rankings on Google, and their sole purpose is to generate leads.

My whole point that I been trying to drive across, is the fact that there are LOTS of ways to make money from your website, without being solely reliant on ads. Some of these publications are so out of touch with how to truly make money online.... I'm not going to finish that sentence.

None of what I speak of is theory, it's all from first hand experience.
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That's not what you ORIGINALLY said.

Your original premise was that because Wikipedia was never updated, the ads don't have a purpose, IE, they don't deserve to make any money. - That's really kind of a horrifying stance.

I'm not disagreeing with the rest but, the stance of, "you don't update wikipedia so you don't deserve anything" when it costs hundreds of thousands yearly...Get where I'm coming from?

I don't disagree that the system currently in place isn't a good one...It's not...But, claiming you're essentially a Robin Hood because of how bad the ads have gotten is a misnomer. The ads are bad because we pushed them, here.

Like I said, you can't have this both ways...Unfortunately. This is an either - or industry and either way, we're going to do some serious collateral damage.

lol yeah, it was sarcasm, i thought everyone knew Wikipedia didn't have ads, and that they updated the most often of any website on the net.

And sure there will be casualties, there always are casualties in a free market. Fortunately, it's those who have innovative and new ideas that are superior to the old ones that strive and those casualties are those who do not innovate.

What you are describing is more in line with a Corporatocracy, than a free market. Imagine if Tesla's innovative designs won out over Edisons, or if the Tucker wasn't squashed by the big 3 automakers. (Yes, I know there is a lot more to these stories than big bad corporation destroying the good guy, I'm just referencing these two with Romanticism for the sake of making a point). The free market is the hand that forces innovation and progress.

The internet is still very young, and is going to have growing pains from time to time, and this is one of them. Right now our internet is covered in pimples and has a squeaky voice, let's not stay in this phase and allow the free market to turn the internet into a real man with a thick beard and a deep voice instead of perpetually being a zit infested tween it is today.
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Wired should die an obscure and mediocre death. Just like their content.

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I haven't read the entire thread here to see if anyone mentioned it BUT note at the end of the opening post it says they may OR may not make it an absolute.

Saw they said it's gonna depend on how viewers take this, can you guess how it's gonna go... So far?


If I were a betting man I know where my $$ would go on that.
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Right now I'm just browsing with Javascript disabled and I don't see any ads.

They have bigger problems than adblockers if they can't even put anything up without Java.
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So I installed a new ROM today, and hadn't gotten around to enabling Adaway yet. On the 2nd site I visited I noticed something strange.....

124 companies were ready to start serving me targeted ads on my browser, oh goody. rolleyes.gif


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So I installed a new ROM today, and hadn't gotten around to enabling Agawam yet. On the 2nd site I visited I noticed something strange.....

124 companies were ready to start serving me targeted ads on my browser, oh goody. rolleyes.gif
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my isp allows me 10mb of web space that i've neglected . . i want in on the goldmine.

daddy wants a rolls royce. biggrin.gif
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Cool, I've only been to Wired like twice in my entire life. Why twice? Because I thought they wrote good articles.... rolleyes.gif
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Wired can shutdown for all i care, no way i would ever pay $4 a month to read a website. I will not disable my adblock plugin or my noscript plugin that helps me keep my system free of malware. The Ad industry only has themselves to blame for people using Adblock type plugins. They bombard us daily with Ads/Commercials to no end. Popular talks shows like Rush Limbaugh show have over 29mins of commercials per hour on terrestrial radio.
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For those crazy enough to read through all of these comments.... I am glad that someone is doing this. There users are doing nothing illegal by using adblock, but its kinda like going to an ice cream shop, trying a few flavors and leaving having no intention of buying anything. Not illegal, but ...yeah... rude. At the same time... if you got food poisoning from that place... it would feel 10x worse if you had PAYED for the food that made you sick.

I am intestested in seeing how this pans out. adblock is getting worse and worse and companies need to do something. At the same time... sites that only have 1 paragraph of text with a next page leading to 10 pages where 80% of the page is ads... not cool either. Then there is the security aspect, which seems like there should be repercussions if your site has some malware on it. Either way... it feels like this is a step towards an understanding. This is not some problem that can or should be held in a courtroom, but an unwritten agreement with society. There needs to be an accepted norm.
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