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post #191 of 397
I don't mind disabling adblock for sites that have relatively non-intrusive ads, please no annoying/distracting ads is all I ask for. Otherwise it stays on.
post #192 of 397
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Originally Posted by Mygaffer View Post

I wouldn't mind turning off adblocking for a site, like OCN, but I also use NoScript for the security and I've found unless you allow everything most sites, like Forbes, will still act as if you are blocking their ads. If I have to allow all of these sites to run whatever plugins they want than no deal.

I do, but I wouldn't have a problem making a yearly donation.
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I find it particularly interesting that you don't see the irony here.

Ad companies are getting worse because they're struggling for revenue.
They're struggling for revenue because Ablock is getting //BETTER// at blocking adds.
Thus, there's no reason to heed the words of consumers because if they don't make enough money to survive, they'll have no consumers.
Thus, this is their solution.

See the cycle yet?

One begets the other. Can't have it both ways.

The online advertising market is not struggling. It has been consistently growing and is set to overtake television advertising in a few years.
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post #193 of 397
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The online advertising market is not struggling. It has been consistently growing and is set to overtake television advertising in a few years.

That doesn't say the on line advertising market is struggling, does it?

They THEY'RE is referring to the websites that get the revenue FROM the online advertising markets ARE struggling. Thus, the cycle continues.
post #194 of 397
Can someone please edumacate me:

How the hell can companies tell when you're blocking an ad? Is there a way to circumvent that 'block signature' and keep on blocking ads willy-nilly without them knowing?
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I would pay $1 -$2 a year to use a website I really like.

If the website is small but popular then that could net a web owner something like 50k -60k a year if its much larger then much more $$ . Which for a bunch of html and code periodically updated that’s a good equivalent salary for sitting on their ass most of the day. I would allow them ONE ad as a supplement but no more or I would un-sub. For those pre-laid out sites with recycled content and non original but photo shopped images with vague new stories with no content I can't see how they should be able to sit there and rake money in when everyone else has to bust their ass working 40 - 70hrs a week in the real world.

you get the feeling a lot of websites are staring to expect too much, its not a new medium or a particularly fast advancing one. If you took a Forum instead of a news site and removed content created by the users .. then all your left with is probably an occasional article or two and the costs of hosting the site with the structure and forms already in place static for many years, moderation is often carried out by ardent fans of the site. A lot of sites are sort of created and sustained by the user content.


It might not be popular but it seems the entire digital revolution is being predicated on the idea of "harvesting" data and reselling it back. Be it smart phones, devices or ads on internet sites. The consumer wants a product not a stream of nothing .. last time i checked my products didn't actually get any better with all this new marketing information rolleyes.gif

If sites want to make money off ad revenue selling customer data AND customer sales for subscription they can pay sales TAX just like a normal company has too.
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post #196 of 397
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Originally Posted by Masked View Post

That doesn't say the on line advertising market is struggling, does it?

They THEY'RE is referring to the websites that get the revenue FROM the online advertising markets ARE struggling. Thus, the cycle continues.

I got off work today and Just spent an hour doing my diligence. You were not in the other 3 ad blocking threads. I apologize.
 
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post #197 of 397
So this is just another site I can add to my Adblock list of "Do not visit" lol

As a website owner myself, Ads are old. If you have loyal viewers a simple donation button will be way more then any ad can get you.
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post #198 of 397
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Ad companies are getting worse because they're struggling for revenue.
Evidence, please. I don't see ad agencies going out of business, their stocks going down, or their boards declaring losses.
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I find it particularly interesting that you don't see the irony here.

Ad companies are getting worse because they're struggling for revenue.
They're struggling for revenue because Ablock is getting //BETTER// at blocking adds.
Thus, there's no reason to heed the words of consumers because if they don't make enough money to survive, they'll have no consumers.
Thus, this is their solution.

See the cycle yet?

One begets the other. Can't have it both ways.

 

 

What's interesting is that the cycle started with the abuse of ads from those very same people who are now complaining that people are blocking their ads.

 

The cycle is easy to see:

1. Users get tired of abusive ads.

2. Users install adblocking.

3. Users contribute to adblocking crowdsourced project.

 

Rinse and repeat.

 

There is no solution if you're blocking adblock. There's a filter for that.

 

The solution is finding better ways to increase the value of your content even if that means creating better content and not rely on injecting malware into the page. Plenty of publications have went that route and they're still around.

post #200 of 397
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Originally Posted by Chakravant View Post

Evidence, please. I don't see ad agencies going out of business, their stocks going down, or their boards declaring losses.

The THEY'RE in that context is in reference to the publisher.

I thought that was quite clear.
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