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Originally Posted by Chakravant View Post

I'm pretty sure I do pay a monthly fee for the ability to browse the internet. I'm also pretty sure no ad company pays me to use "my" internet that I paid good money for. Maybe corporations should pay me for the privilege of advertising to me.

companies should pay you to watch TV. Lol
post #202 of 397
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companies should pay you to watch TV. Lol
They don't have to pay me, but if they want me to watch their ads, they better provide me something. I'm no fat cat. I can't support a pack of leeches.
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The THEY'RE in that context is in reference to the publisher.

I thought that was quite clear.
Ad agencies are getting worse because software publishers are struggling for revenue? I'm not sure how that works.

One, the ad agency can advertise anything, they don't need the software industry. They aren't going to go out on a limb like that for a fraction of their demand base.

Two, software publishers are doing just fine. EA, ActiBlizzard, NCSoft, all of them are making healthy profit. One or two of the big names have had some slight dips in profit, but in the vast majority of such cases that has taken their margins from ludicrous to merely fat.

Edit: While I only mention game publishers, business software is in an even better position financially.
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post #204 of 397
If i'm going to be cajoled into paying for a subscription its not going to be the one they (AD foisting ass hats) hoped for.

I would gladly pay for a subscription to a plugin/service that lets me view any site i care to visit AD free.

Thankfully i get that, for the most part, for free currently.
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post #205 of 397
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I wouldn't mind turning off adblocking for a site, like OCN, but I also use NoScript for the security and I've found unless you allow everything most sites, like Forbes, will still act as if you are blocking their ads. If I have to allow all of these sites to run whatever plugins they want than no deal.

Actually, last time I browsed OCN with Javascript enabled (about a year ago) it was one of the worst sites I've come across. Full video ads with audio.
I actually can't visit this site with some mobile devices because it takes up something like 10 Megabytes per page.
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Actually, last time I browsed OCN with Javascript enabled (about a year ago) it was one of the worst sites I've come across. Full video ads with audio.
I actually can't visit this site with some mobile devices because it takes up something like 10 Megabytes per page.

Really? When I visit on mobile I only get a banner ad, a footer ad, and an ad on the sidebar. Nothing intrusive. At least not on mobile. It is a bit of a pain in the behind to accidentally click on the big wallpaper ad on desktop, but nothing intrusive, just close the window and move on with my life.

HOWEVER, OC has adapted somewhat to other revenue streams like Artisans, and allowing vendors to sell here (all of which I believe pay for the privilege).

I'll say again, ads aren't a viable revenue source. It's not up to the consumers to come up with alternate revenue streams. That's the company's obligation.

Frankly, I think Wired is trying to do just that. Yes it's unpopular, and may fail miserably, but at least they're trying I suppose. Them saying that they're going to see how it works says to me that they're open to change and other ideas, which is the way it should be.
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Huh, didn't even know that they still existed. Good luck with that one, unless you all are going to be bringing some serious exclusives/interviews.
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Originally Posted by Clocknut View Post

I personally think Ad blocks software went a bit too far on blocking.

If all the ad blocking only block ads that contains

Video/audio
Animated flash/html5

only allow static image. No popups etc. I want an internet like this.

we had that.

then advertisers found it wasn't as good as bugging the hell out of users.

so that's why adblock exists today.

because users had enough of that crap.
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post #209 of 397
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Ad agencies are getting worse because software publishers are struggling for revenue? I'm not sure how that works.

One, the ad agency can advertise anything, they don't need the software industry. They aren't going to go out on a limb like that for a fraction of their demand base.

Two, software publishers are doing just fine. EA, ActiBlizzard, NCSoft, all of them are making healthy profit. One or two of the big names have had some slight dips in profit, but in the vast majority of such cases that has taken their margins from ludicrous to merely fat.

Edit: While I only mention game publishers, business software is in an even better position financially.

No.

Wrong.

News publishers. New York Times. CNN. IGN. etc. PUBLISHERS.

You know the websites you visit that actually have the ads on them provided by the agencies?

Where have you been the last 5/6 pages?
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No.

Wrong.

News publishers. New York Times. CNN. IGN. etc. PUBLISHERS.

You know the websites you visit that actually have the ads on them provided by the agencies?

Where have you been the last 5/6 pages?
I just went through the last 6 pages. Outside of a forced analogy to newspapers that your reply can't really be applied to, nobody has really been talking about news publishers. Are you sure you didn't cross your threads somewhere?
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