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post #1 of 19
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Greetings

Last week week one of my hard drives died and it turned to be a lot more messy then i initially thought.
After i removed it it took ages for my PC to boot and as such i different things like windows reinstall and even cmos reset on the back of the motherboard.

Now that i got a fresh install everything is working fine except a "tiny thing"
I suffer from heavy pop in in all the games i tested where i didn't had any before.
What do i mean with heavy? playing a game and having parts of the level (usually foliage) spawning right before you like there is something wrong with the object distance.

I tried numerous things like changing the memory, the graphics card, running the game on hdd except my ssd, changing the graphic card slot, another windows reinstall but i cannot get rid of it.
I got a album here of my bios settings but i couldn't find anything wrong here either.
https://imgur.com/a/g3zRS

Does anyone knows what this might cause? At this point i am starting to think i broke the mobo but i find the issue so specific i find this hard to believe.
It is almost like memory speed or something is debunked.
post #2 of 19
Does this only happen with online games? If it isn't happening in single player or any drastic changes to graphics benchmarks then it could be a network issue. Having things 'pop up' like you are experiencing lag could just be a network driver issue or even just a loose or flaky ethernet cable.
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
Sadly no.
I also found a thread on the nvidia forums with the same issue that has 97 pages
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/831430/geforce-900-series/pixelated-shadows-texture-popins-gtx-960-970-980-ect-/1/
the "solution" = Build a completely new PC with no part of the "corrupted" one.
post #4 of 19
Ummmm no, that's not the solution, actually.

The issue is with new GPU's, ala the 900 series.

It's a LOD bias balancing issue - Nvidia removed the feature some time ago while still leaving the toggle active - Thus you think LOD Bias, exists and that you can control it but, you actually cannot.

I've heard there were major functionality issues with the LOD settings and thus, they went on "hiatus" but, it is a legitimate complaint.

BTW there is no "corruption"...What happened in your case is that Windows 7 pushed certain functionality sectors to your other HDD as a support "feature" (It's known that it does this" and when your other hdd bit it, it no longer had that handshake to push it along.

At this point, instead of spending a large amount of money, completely unnecessarily, you should wait and see what Nvidia does/says considering this IS a significant issue that effects anyone with a 9-series gpu.
post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 
But with that logic shouldn't a clean install of a fresh windows fix that?
The other hard drive is not connected and not even in my PC anymore, did a clean install and it i still got it now.
It cannot have permanently moved those right?
Edited by Assirra - 2/10/16 at 2:37pm
post #6 of 19
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But with that logic shouldn't a clean install of a fresh windows fix that?
The other hard drive is not connected and not even in my PC anymore, did a clean install and it i still got it now.
It cannot have permanently moved those right?

Erm, no.

It's a Nvidia driver problem that currently exists with the 900 series cards.

No amount of hardware you could possibly buy, aside from 2 non 900 series GPU's will solve this issue.
post #7 of 19
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Erm, no.

It's a Nvidia driver problem that currently exists with the 900 series cards.

No amount of hardware you could possibly buy, aside from 2 non 900 series GPU's will solve this issue.
But i never had it prior 2 weeks ago and i used the same software.
It is not like i didn't notice it before or anything either, having foliage spawn very close to me would be impossible to ignore, hence why i instantly noticed it when it did happen.
I have this card for 3/4 of a year now from around the launch of Witcher 3.
Also, the issue stays when i use my own GTX 680 as well.
Edited by Assirra - 2/10/16 at 4:54pm
post #8 of 19
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But i never had it prior 2 weeks ago and i used the same software.
It is not like i didn't notice it before or anything either, having foliage spawn very close to me would be impossible to ignore, hence why i instantly noticed it when it did happen.
I have this card for 3/4 of a year now from around the launch of Witcher 3.
Also, the issue stays when i use my own GTX 680 as well.

Read the Nvidia thread you posted.

Also: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/499767-low-image-quality-on-newer-gpus/?page=1

Also a HUGE post on Reddit about this very issue.

The issue YOU DESCRIBE is not a hardware issue, it's a driver issue that is the fault of Nvidia. It only happens on the 9-series cards. It is an issue with LOD bias.

At this point, you claim that you can replicate the problem with other GPUs - Of course you can, you initially had the 9-series installed before your GPU swap thus, the software issue festers and shows with other cards.

It's like a disease. You didn't cleanse the disease. You swapped bandages without applying antiseptic and expected it to fix the problem. It cannot.

In order to use another card, you either have to rootkit your driver, sweep it from scratch or completely reinstall windows.

THEN and only then can you diagnose if, beyond the driver, you actually a HDD issue.

Until you do that, you're throwing away money on hardware without any actual, real, diagnosis.

Again - The 9-series LOD Bias, is a proven fact at this point and it is a flaw with the series in and of, itself. - So you know for a fact, that's part of this issue.
post #9 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hmm, by that logic shutting down, switching cards and reinstalling/installing windows on another HDD should fix it?
Unless that decease somehow got in my motherboard but that is messed up.
Curious tough, what means rootkit your driver?
I just find it weird it came when i used the exact same hardware bar that other HDD without any issue like 2 weeks ago.
Edited by Assirra - 2/10/16 at 6:19pm
post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by Assirra View Post

Hmm, by that logic shutting down, switching cards and reinstalling/installing windows on another HDD should fix it?
Unless that decease somehow got in my motherboard but that is messed up.
Curious tough, what means rootkit your driver?
I just find it weird it came when i used the exact same hardware bar that other HDD without any issue like 2 weeks ago.

Well that's just it.

There's a proven driver issue with your cards. So when you installed the driver, it skipped LOD Bias - Every time you try to install a different card with that setup/windows etc, it skips LOD bias because that's what it's been told to do. - That's why you're not getting anywhere and the problem is replicating.

So, at this point, the only way to diagnose that issue is either to reinstall windows completely with like a 680 - THEN see if you still have an HDD issue or, theoretically you COULD driver sweep the Nvidia driver completely, rootkit it, IE delete any trace of Nvidia driver software from your PC - Apparently the 2nd option isn't working though - If you skim through - But on a clean install, the LOD bias SHOULD reinstall itself.

My suggestion would be to reinstall windows with a 680 - Set it to settings you know worked well. Give it a run. If you have a load issue at that point, you know your HDD is going down.

Otherwise, to rely on the test without the reinstall, you're not confirming anything.
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