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The colors in the lollies / sweets / candy opened some doors re build colors. I have some liquorice allsorts that I haven't put in the build yet (made from modelers clay, not actual candy) and when my wife saw the pictures she said ...

That is rubbish. Where is the candy? You can't call a build Liquorice Allsorts and then not put any Liquorice Allsorts in the case. You have to change the build title to 'lots of colorful wires'.

I was too busy laughing to reply.

I really have to do a special post about the GT710. It is this motherboards version of built in graphics.

Edited by ruffhi - 8/20/16 at 8:05pm
post #352 of 601
Well, I like it the way it looks now.

If you decide to add some clay Allsorts to it one day, that's up to you, but imo it certainly isn't mandatory!
Good that you decided to finish it off, for now, (what build is ever really finished, lol.)
That gives you the opportunity to step back and see it as it is.

Imo the soft tubing in the case section works really well with this build, very clean routing, and no overly long runs.
I guess there is no block for the GT 710, lol.
That's an interesting little video card, and certainly better than the usual built-in graphics on motherboards.
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post #353 of 601
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The Mighty EVGA Gt 710 Graphics Card!!

My motherboard does not have integrated graphics. I am undecided on which of the stupidly expensive biggrin.gif graphics cards I am going to get. But ... what good is a new computer if I can't display anything on the screen. In steps Mighty Joe Black ... sorry ... I mean Mighty GT710. For all of $30 ... I am now the proud owner of this beast.

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Here is the box ... front and back.

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Is that picture on the back an indication of the might-ness of the GT710?

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NO! This card is even more mighty than that!

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He has escaped. Beware ... mighty GT710 on the loose ...

But wait ... what is that writing in the middle of the fan? He is hampered by a 'remove before use sticker'. No wonder I wasn't getting the performance from Mighty GT710 that I expected. That stupid sticker was holding him back.


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Removed!

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Back shot just in case anyone needs to measure for a backing plate ...

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Installed. And it was a mighty struggle to get him in his final resting place ... let me tell you!!!!!

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And here is a wider shot showing the Mighty GT710 in his full, natural habitat.

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Just in case you can't see the crafty fellow ... he is a master of camouflage at times ... (Click to show)
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Edited by ruffhi - 8/21/16 at 3:21pm
post #354 of 601
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Originally Posted by DerComissar View Post

Well, I like it the way it looks now.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by DerComissar 
If you decide to add some clay Allsorts to it one day, that's up to you, but imo it certainly isn't mandatory!

Added. Well, some of them. You can also see the wire cover insert that I added (thanks to akira749).

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Originally Posted by DerComissar 
Good that you decided to finish it off, for now, (what build is ever really finished, lol.)
That gives you the opportunity to step back and see it as it is.

I am pretty sure that I will keep tinkering with it. But it will be promoted from a 'build' to 'The Main PC' very shortly. It is 4 inches wider and 6 inches taller than my current PC (Corsair 550D) so the custom wood stand and location won't match. I might just need to redesign the whole study just for a computer upgrade.
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Imo the soft tubing in the case section works really well with this build, very clean routing, and no overly long runs.

Yeah ... I am glad with how the visible tubing turned out. And swapping them to hard tubing won't need much of a change in layout. The termination point on the tube going into the CPU is about 2mm higher than the port on the reservoir (bad planning on my end) but I think I can adjust and make it so that the hard tubing that is visible is nice and level smile.gif.

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Originally Posted by DerComissar 
I guess there is no block for the GT 710, lol.
That's an interesting little video card, and certainly better than the usual built-in graphics on motherboards.

I posted a write up for the card (above).
post #355 of 601
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One final picture showing the HDD / SSD section that I converted to a pump housing, sprayed the internal area black and moved the SSDs back to where the HDD cage was.

The only downside of moving the SSDs is that I couldn't use the nuts that CL provided. I had to drill holes and use nut and bolt to hold it there. So ... if I want to remove an SSD ... I have to take the case apart ... no other way I can get to the nut.


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Edited by ruffhi - 8/21/16 at 3:33pm
post #356 of 601
Lots of humor in the GT 710 write-up, lol!biggrin.gif

I have to admit, I'd never even heard of the GT 710 until seeing it in your build. Because I've been preoccupied with the stupid-expensive cards for so many years, lol.

It looks like a rather impressive little card, especially for 30 bucks!
I guess you will eventually be going to a high-end card and block, but if you're undecided on which one, then what's the rush.

I was doing some research on these little suckers, and just stumbled onto the club forum here at OCN for them, and saw your post there.
That will give the 710, 720, 730, 740 Owners thread something to look at now!

Anyhow, with some more high-end cards due out soon, namely the 1080 Ti, and whatever AMD has coming, imo it is wise to wait a bit, before forking out the big bucks on one.
If you're into the latest and greatest that is.

Well. a few more Allsorts adds to the build, lol.
The SSD's look good mounted there beside the pumps.thumb.gif

Edit:
Which is a good thing, considering how difficult it will be to unbolt them now, lol.
Edited by DerComissar - 8/21/16 at 9:26pm
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MAINFrame-Customs-Logo-Header.jpg

I put some 24-pin combs from MainFrame Custom into my shopping cart, filled in the mailing address, paid for them ... and then realized that I should have also ordered some 24-pin connectors. Dang Nab It ... do I have to pay shipping again?

So ... I emailed MainFrame Custom to see if I could add a couple of connectors to the existing order and to work out how to pay for them.

Their reply? "Don't worry about it ... we'll include the connectors in your order for free."

Now that is what I call customer service. And the package turned up super quick.
post #358 of 601
Great build log and as great outcome smile.gif
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Nice, glad the build is "finished" (nothing is ever finished here!), it looks great! thumb.gif
post #360 of 601
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On a different front, iBruce dropped me a hint about my radiators [2 x Hardware Labs Black Ice SR2 120.3 Multiport Satin White Radiator (white with white fins)] on 7/18/16 ...
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The white fins take a performance hit.

I didn't want to be the one to tell you. redface.gif

NO I have no graphs, no one has plotted the thermal differences.

I only heard of the many returns from someone who sells them, seems the white paint is very thick, much thicker than the black fin paint, inhibiting heat transfer, and they HWL will not be manufacturing any more of the white/white fin.

I was disappointed, I really like the look of the white with white fins, so I had to settle for the white frame with black fins. redface.gif

I (sort of) missed this. He repeated it yesterday ...
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Oh and by the way your white finned rads lose 50% (maybe more) of their cooling capacity since HWL made a mistake and applied the white paint onto the micro thin fins in three coats over the black fins and way too thick.

So I went matte white with black fins.

I didn't want to be the one to tell you. redface.gif

I emailed PPCs to see if I could RMA them (purchased in Feb 2016) and got a reply that included 'Normally we do not take back items passed the 30 days per our policy'. This was as I expected ... except for the word 'normally' that left me slightly encouraged ... but not for long ... as he went on to ask if I had installed them (yes), were they used (yes) and had I run liquid through them (yes).

I also contacted Hardware Labs after reading their radiator warranty ...

radiator warranty (Click to show)
Limited Lifetime Warranty
The Black Ice® SR2™ Advanced PC Radiators carry a limited warranty for the lifetime of the product, for the original owner, and when purchased from official channels, except when stated otherwise. Our products are guaranteed to be free from defects in original material and construction and to perform as advertised when properly used and maintained in personal computers.

Under this warranty, Hardware Labs Performance Systems, will repair or replace any product we find to be defective in its original material or construction. This Limited Lifetime Warranty is non-transferable and does not cover normal signs of wear, corrosion, bent fins, paint damage/abrasions, or damage/breakage due to improper use or maintenance. To receive warranty repair or replacement, the owner must send the product for evaluation to Hardware Labs Performance Systems, Inc., in Manila, Philippines or to its designated regional distributors with a proof of purchase.

In addition to the provisions of this warranty, you may also have other rights that can vary by state. No other warranties are implied or expressed other than what is specifically stated here.

Liability Disclaimer
Using our equipment requires the user to ensure that all other accessories, i.e. waterblocks, fittings, hoses, clamps, pumps, etc., are secure and leak free prior to operation. This warranty does not cover damage to the user's computer and property due to improper installation and/or failure to acknowledge and accordingly act in these circumstances.

Some hope but it is up to them to determine if the product is defective ... and only after I ship it back to them. I could go back to my air cooler ... but where is the fun in that? To be honest, I have 2 x 360 worth of radiator cooling for a single CPU block (at the moment). According to what I have read, that is massive overkill ... would I even noticed if the rads were total crap?

Anyway, HWLs got back to me with ...

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What exactly is your set up and what temps are you getting?
The paint on the cores have negligible impact on performance.

I think this build log does a pretty good job of detailing my set up (I will send them a link).

That leaves the question of cooling performance ... how do I measure that? I can get ambient temps. I can get water temps going into the first radiator and out of the second radiator ... but I obviously cannot do this with other sets of radiators for comparison purposes. Does anyone know if these radiators have been performance tested against others?

Edited by ruffhi - 8/26/16 at 3:42am
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