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Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn View Post

Expect to see it in high-end, but not flagship, GPUs.
Kinda the picture I am getting on upcoming GPU's. Titan X replacement will be HBM2. Fury X replacement will be HBM2. GTX 980 replacement will be GDDR5X. R9 490/490X will be GDDR5X. While I am hoping that by the time the GTX 980 Ti replacement drops in 2017 the price of HBM2 will have decreased to the point that this GPU will get HBM2, I am not going to be holding my breath.
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I want 512-Bit 13GHz GDDR5X cards.
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I want 512-Bit 13GHz GDDR5X cards.

For what that would cost you would probably do better with HBM2. biggrin.gif
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post #14 of 44
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Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post

The bonus is that they can allocate the saved power on the GPU cores, both count and speed.
that's the reason we need hbm on flagships.
Edited by Klocek001 - 2/9/16 at 9:27pm
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Originally Posted by Asmodian View Post

For what that would cost you would probably do better with HBM2. biggrin.gif

If AMD can put a 512bit GDDR5 on the $330 R9 390 I don't see why it would have to be an really expensive option with GDDR5x.
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If AMD can put a 512bit GDDR5 on the $330 R9 390 I don't see why it would have to be an really expensive option with GDDR5x.

It wouldn't be that much more expensive than AMD's but that many layers in the PCB isn't cheap. HBM2 is not that much more than GDDR5x at lower bit-widths and it offers reduced area or extra performance on the GPU core as well (smaller memory controller).

The advantage of GDDR5X is cost so a 512-bit bus seems counter productive.

Assuming a stock 980 Ti's 336.5 * (512/384) * 2 = 897.3GB/s so HBM2 @ 1TB/s is probably a little better than even 512-bit GDDR5X @ 14GHz. Power usage goes up with bit width too, sticking to a "cheap" 384 bit bus for ~673 GB/s or a lower power 1TB/s at the highest SKUs sounds more reasonable given current technologies. wink.gif
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OMG Titan X successor with this HBM2 will probably cost over 1500€ this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
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This is definitely a good step forward and helps with heavy vram games and applications for sure! It'll be interesting to see the power efficiency comparisons between gddr5 and gddr5... I would think it's certainly a step in the right direction as far as lowering power consumption while increasing performance. Hopefully Pascal and AMD can really utilize the added benefit from the higher bandwidth memory.

I would think the tablet and soc market is going to benefit the greatest from hbm2... Think we're going to be able to have even smaller motherboards for tablets, much higher bandwidth and lower power consumption. It's a win win for the Small form factor market... Thats really where things are headed these days. I'd imagine with the continual decrease in power consumption well have more and more passively cooled tablets and laptops in the near future.
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I want 512-Bit 13GHz GDDR5X cards.

Good call. Now you're using about 100W for the memory alone.

HBM on the other hand is around 10W. thumb.gif
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Good call. Now you're using about 100W for the memory alone.

HBM on the other hand is around 10W. thumb.gif


I think it was more like 30 W vs 10W.
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