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P182 do not support AIO 240 rad.
There is not spot to mount.

Also that case is very poor on airflow and cooling. I do suggest a new case.
Fractal Define R5 if you need optical bay or Define S. (no optical bay)
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P182 do not support AIO 240 rad.
There is not spot to mount.

Also that case is very poor on airflow and cooling. I do suggest a new case.
Fractal Define R5 if you need optical bay or Define S. (no optical bay)

Nothing a dremel won't fix. I've modified it quite a bit so airflow is pretty good now anyways. I have a 120 where the 5.25 bays are, a 120 down in front near the gpu, a 120 in the back, and a 120 down where the drives and PSU are.

I'm going to cut up the top of the case so I can mount the radiator.
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post #13 of 89
*mutters something abut most sites testing inside cases with insufficient airflow for air towers, and even with the huge difference in RPM theres little actual cooling difference when tested properly*

But yea as you stated you dont have the clearance for a big air cooler, so the point is moot. biggrin.gif

Only other thing is with the new gen of cards coming out later this year we're very likely going to see huge performance gains on the lower production node. Have you considered buying a second hand R9 290 or something for cheap and replacing it later in the year? I had a GTX 780 on 1440 before and it does pretty well if you lower settings a little. I found for example that you dont really need AA on a 25inch 1440. Then later in the year on you'd be in for a nice big upgrade again.

I'm afraid I dont really follow storage so I'm not the best person to try and answer that question right now.
Edited by Slink3Slyde - 2/11/16 at 12:10am
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Most of the sites I pulled my test data from are using open chassis test rigs that are basically just a frame to mount **** into with no real case around them.

I figured for now, the card I'm getting has been known to clock very well (capable of on par performance to a stock GTX980) so at 1440p it should be just dandy for at least a year or so for me (once the next gen stuff starts coming down in price basically)

The Sandforce SF-2200 is like, a 5 year old SSD controller, and at this point, is really bad from a performance standpoint. The SMI controller is a couple years old, and oddly, the mushkin SSD I'm getting, uses the same controller as their Reactor series SSD's

here's the review I was looking at when trying to compare the temps of the different coolers. The case they use is a LIAN LI PC-T60B so airflow is a non-issue unless they try and sabotage it. The one I'm getting, when the load gets really heavy, is a few degrees worse than the NH-D15, and is 10DB higher at full fan speed, but for the price I think it'll be a good fit for me. I got it because it was good enough for what my requirments were. All I have to do is cut a hole in the top of my case, no big deal to me.
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post #15 of 89
Dremel works. Just be sure to measure and have clearance on top for the ram and CPU block.
Cases has improved so much since P182 to a point that cooling has helped so much.

R5 is a great case, that supports 360 top and 240 in front. If you want air. 2x top, 2x front, 1xrear,1x bottom all 140mm fans. That is beyond cooling.
    
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Yeah there are a lot of nice cases now I saw a few I like but for now I'm happy with what I have. Just need to get some new cut off discs since I tore my last one up doing some work on my car. It's an easy enough modification, I'm just debating whether I should mount the radiator externally or internally. That'll really depend on clearences inside the case however.

I bought some cheap masscool 120mm 80cfm fans too. Ball bearing. Because EVERY friggin corsair SP120 performance fan I bought 3 years ago have died. I didn't even think to check why my CPU temps were high, and attributed it to the thermal compound degrading after 7 years, then one day the fan started rattling and was only spinning at 900rpm. Nearly cooked my processor at IDLE. I had 4 of them. I now have zero. Yet my antec fan that came with my case is still going strong. (the others broke, but no fault on antec, Cant remember what happened but I ended up cracking a blade off two of them over the years)
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Most of the sites I pulled my test data from are using open chassis test rigs that are basically just a frame to mount **** into with no real case around them.

I figured for now, the card I'm getting has been known to clock very well (capable of on par performance to a stock GTX980) so at 1440p it should be just dandy for at least a year or so for me (once the next gen stuff starts coming down in price basically)

The Sandforce SF-2200 is like, a 5 year old SSD controller, and at this point, is really bad from a performance standpoint. The SMI controller is a couple years old, and oddly, the mushkin SSD I'm getting, uses the same controller as their Reactor series SSD's

here's the review I was looking at when trying to compare the temps of the different coolers. The case they use is a LIAN LI PC-T60B so airflow is a non-issue unless they try and sabotage it. The one I'm getting, when the load gets really heavy, is a few degrees worse than the NH-D15, and is 10DB higher at full fan speed, but for the price I think it'll be a good fit for me. I got it because it was good enough for what my requirments were. All I have to do is cut a hole in the top of my case, no big deal to me.

TPU's testing is good I agree, I think we're looking at the same data and reading it slightly differently, although the old setup was basically like testing on a 4790k at stock.

Theyre using a new setup now 6700k at 4.6 1.4V, thats what I posted earlier, Im actually surprised the NHD15 is within 2-3 degrees at a lower noise level. The H220X has quality components and is beating the EK Predator by a couple of degrees, and notice how the 280mm rad H240X only gives you 1 degree more

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Swiftech/H220_X2_Prestige/6.html



As they come out of the box though the best 280mm CLC's will cool the CPU a couple of degrees better then the best air coolers due to the faster fans. True smile.gif

In all honesty though Intel quads dont really need a huge amount of cooling so any 240+mm rad or large air cooler is going to do well, I'm sure the Tundra will be more then enough.

As far as storage goes, I dont worry about it too much as long as its an SSD. I dont deal with huge Photoshop files and a few ms here and there doesnt worry me when loading programs, I'm happy as long as its a reliable model, so as I said I'm not to much help with that.

It was just an idea on the GPU nothing wrong with a 970 IMO and I understand the G1 is a very good model. I was thinking about suggesting EVGA because of the Step Up Program. I know the EVGA 970 ACX doesnt have the best cooling but people are talikng about the Nvidia cards being possibly released in April so that might be something to think about.
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I bought some cheap masscool 120mm 80cfm fans too. Ball bearing. Because EVERY friggin corsair SP120 performance fan I bought 3 years ago have died
pls no, stahp dont buy some random fans, either they gonna cool nothing, or they gonna cool nothing while being noisy

maybe consider thinking twice before spending much money on the SSD:
pls

also for cooling look at dis
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actually they're just for the case to get some intake circulation for the gpu and outlying components. Sound isn't an issue for me. I actually like the sound of fans blaring in my PC. Helps me sleep at night. I wear headphones 99% of the time too. I say "cheap" but they're not exactly cheap. They didn't cost 15-20 bucks a piece is what I mean by cheap.

125 for a 512 SSD is cheap considering how fast they are vs a HDD. Fallout 4 has significant performance issues relating to standard HDD's. Basically, a standard drive just can't load the textures into the GPU and ram fast enough and you end up with really nasty LOD issues. I also play a lot of MMO's so drive performance is important with all the load times I see.
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It was just an idea on the GPU nothing wrong with a 970 IMO and I understand the G1 is a very good model. I was thinking about suggesting EVGA because of the Step Up Program. I know the EVGA 970 ACX doesnt have the best cooling but people are talikng about the Nvidia cards being possibly released in April so that might be something to think about.

Its funny you mention the 970 ACX. I was going to get an evga 970 ssc acx 2.0, as it has some nice upgrades over the 1st version. But just before I hit "Pay" i noticed my cart cost more than it should. Turns out Newegg stopped the nice sale they had goin on them so I dropped back to getting the G1 Gaming. I like Gigabyte's coolers and this particular model seems to be good for overclocking. I'm never one for upgrading frequently. I tend to buy really budget GPU's and spend most on getting a good CPU/Mobo combo that will last for many years. That's how I'm still gaming with such an old rig lol
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